ACK@#$@!#$ RPM IS EVIL AND SATANIC! i cant stand rpms... ill say it
again: i can install RH on my alpha :) i think im gunna install SuSE in
the next few weeks here,..

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On 11 Sep, Douglas E. Wagner wrote:
> Actually, if you are just starting out into linux, Slackware is my
> prefered installatoin.  It is small enough (not as much crap to deal with)
> that you don't have to worry about the overhead of Redhat.  Also, it
> allows you NOT to get into the NASTY RH habits.  Yea...I know that RPMs
> are absolutely the greatest ting under the sun, but it isn't the ONLY way
> to do things.  I think beginners should be forced to learn how to install
> things without RPM...(make config, make dep, make clean, make install,
> etc..:)  you learn alot more on the Slackware System instead of the RH
> sistem.  However (putting on the fire retardent suit), i think RH is a
> better distribution overall.  There is lots more functionality in it (more
> utilities, etc.).  And it is alot more "professional" i think...just my
> opinion.  I would say Slackware is FAR from dead, but I do think that it
> is consistantly farther behind than RedHat.
> 
>                                       Douglas Wagner
> 
> On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Druppy wrote:
> 
>> yes 3.5 was the first release in a long time. not nearly as frequently
>> updated as redhat, suse, or debian what version was before 3.5? 3.3?
>> and what kernel did that have? not to mention if its your first time
>> using linux slak doesnt exactly make it nice and easy. upgrading? hmm
>> not really. i ran slak before i ran redhat and it was a fine distro...
>> i just dont see a lot of good things happening with it now...
>> 
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>> On 11 Sep, twist. wrote:
>> > Slak dead?  That's ridiculous.  v3.5 was released July '98 with kernel
>> > version 2.0.34, X11 v3.3.2, egcs-1.03 (a better gcc) gcc-2.8.1, etc.  
>> > 
>> > See http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/slackwar.htm fomodetails.  You can
>> > download it from ftp.cdrom.com, and of course, it's also available on cd
>> > from http://www.cheapbytes.com/ for $1.99.
>> > 
>> > I have Slakware 3.5 running on my Inspiron 3200, and it works wonderfully.
>> > I installed from the bareapm.i and pcmcia.gz boot/rootdisk, and as I
>> > recall, it had no problem recognizing my 3C562D/3C563D lan+modem card.  And
>> > I was especially pleased to see that redhat even put up a targzipped
>> > version of the neomagic X server for us anti-rpm people!
>> > 
>> > And Brad, as far as problems installing the pcmcia-cs package, it helps if
>> > you have the linux kernel source tree installed.  Maybe you didn't install
>> > the source, or maybe you didn't install it where you told the pcmcia-cs
>> > install script you installed it?
>> > 
>> > Sorry for replying to two people at time...
>> > 
>> > At 09:55 AM 9/11/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> >>i would suggest you do an FTP install of RedHat 5.1 or Debian or
>> >>something other than slakware... seeing as the last release was so long
>> >>ago, it is my opinion that slak is dead. if you dont wanna do a ftp
>> >>install then i suggest you get the InfoMagic 6cd set (usually most
>> >>computer/comp book stores have this) or go to www.cheapbytes.com and
>> >>order a cd for like 1.99$....
>> >>
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>> >>On 11 Sep, Stewart, Brad wrote:
>> >>> Hello, my name is Brad Stewart.  I recently downloaded a copy of linux
>> >>> (slackware v3.3) off the internet.  I am trying to install it on my
>> >>> inspiron 3000 and am having dificulties getting it to recognize my 3com
>> >>> 3c589D PCMCIA card.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I downloaded the PCMCIA kernel mod PCMCIA-cs-3.0.0.5, gunziped and
>> >>> untared it.  Moved into the resulting directory and run "make config."
>> >>> What follows is the results:
>> >>> 
>> >>> I take the defaults on all prompts.
>> >>> Linux source directory [/usr/src/linux]
>> >>> 
>> >>> expr:  syntax error
>> >>> The kernel source tree is version ...
>> >>> WARNING:  The current kernel is actually version 2.0.30
>> >>> The current kernel build date is Tue Jun 24 03:49:52 1997
>> >>> 
>> >>> It continues to ask me questions, which I take the defaults for:
>> >>> The last question that I answer is the "Read from the current kernel"
>> >>> question.  It pauses for a few seconds.  Then I get:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Extracting kernel symbole versions ...
>> >>> kernel config optsions ...
>> >>>      stuff
>> >>>      stuff
>> >>>      stuff
>> >>> 
>> >>> This package requires either a 1.2 series 1.2.8 or higher, a 1.3 series
>> >>> 1.3.30 or higher, any 1.99
>> >>> series kernel or any 2.0 or 2.1 series kernel.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Make:  * * * [config] error 1
>> >>> 
>> >>> and then I'm back at the command prompt.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I played around with this all day yesterday, trying different versions
>> >>> of the PCMCIA patch and got the same results on three different
>> >>> versions.  I'm out of ideas, except maybe reloading linux.  If nyone has
>> >>> any suggestions it would be appreciated.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Brad 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> ************************************************************************
>> >>> *****
>> >>> Bradley A. Stewart 
>> >>> C4I Mobile Systems
>> >>> Phone: (843) 974-5079
>> >>> E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
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