Hi Ron,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Bonica [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 11:13 AM
> To: Templin, Fred L; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Int-area] AD Evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-gre-mtu
> 
> Fred,
> 
> What happens when a legacy device that supports 2784 and 2890 receives a 
> packet that is fragmented

That would only happen when an augmented ingress send a fragmented
packet to a legacy egress that it knows nothing about - an unmanaged
situation. Two solutions are 1) allow the ingress to use the augmented
behavior when it knows that the egress also supports the behavior,
or 2) send the egress a little test packet for which the egress can only
respond if is supports the augmentation.

> as per draft-ietf-intarea-gre-mtu?

I think you meant per draft-templin-intarea-grefrag?

> Is that behavior acceptable?

The ingress should only use the augmented behavior when it knows
that the egress also supports the behavior - e.g., via administrative
configuration, test packet probing. etc.

Thanks - Fred
[email protected]

>                                                                               
>               Ron
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:44 PM
> > To: Ronald Bonica; [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Int-area] AD Evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-gre-mtu
> >
> > Hi Ron,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Int-area [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronald
> > > Bonica
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 10:37 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Int-area] AD Evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-gre-mtu
> > >
> > > Fred,
> > >
> > > How would you achieve backwards compatibility with legacy
> > > implementations? If backwards compatibility cannot be achieved, maybe
> > you are talking about a new protocol, that will ultimately replace GRE?
> >
> > Haven't thought about it too much, but I assume backwards compat would
> > be handled in the same way that it was handled when RFC2784 was updated
> > by RFC2890. That is why this document says "updates RFC2784 and RFC2890".
> >
> > Plus, two new bits have been carved out of the Reserved0 field in the GRE
> > header and, if the bits are non-zero, it is a pretty good indication that 
> > the
> > fragment header is included.
> >
> > Thanks - Fred
> > [email protected]
> >
> > >                                                             Ron
> > >
> > >
> > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > directories.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         Title           : GRE Tunnel Fragmentation
> > > >         Author          : Fred L. Templin
> > > >         Filename        : draft-templin-intarea-grefrag-00.txt
> > > >         Pages           : 5
> > > >         Date            : 2015-04-09
> > > >
> > > > Abstract:
> > > >    GRE tunnels use IPv4 or IPv6 fragmentation of the delivery packet
> > > >    when the delivery packet exceeds the tunnel MTU, or when otherwise
> > > >    necessary.  This can cause problems when unmitigated IPv4
> > > >    fragemntation ensues, or when middleboxes drop IPv6 fragments
> > > >    unconditionally.  This document proposes GRE tunnel fragmentation
> > > >    which avoids these pitfalls..
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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