Hiya, I've read this draft and do not support adoption of a draft with this scope.
I do support consideration of how law enforcement investigations can be carried out, but not without a similar level of consideration of the real trade-offs between assisting law enforcement and commercial or other surveillance. At present, the draft is nowhere near sufficient in this respect. (Despite saying that "Clearly a balance needs to be struck between individual right to privacy and law enforcement access to data during criminal investigations" the draft is anything but balanced in that respect.) I don't think that this problem is a thing that'd be reasonable to try fix after WG adoption, but needs to be handled beforehand as it's a fundamental scope issue. In other words, I believe this draft just has the wrong scope, and if adopted would be likely quite controversial before publication. In contrast, a draft that really does consider the trade-offs related to logging could be quite valuable and if it provided a balanced approach might even not be controversial. (FWIW, I might be willing to try help out a bit on a draft that did have what I think is an appropriate scope, as I do think more appropriate logging is a reasonable goal. But before accepting that offer be aware that IMO sometimes "more appropriate" ought mean only logging minimal data for a very short period and then thoroughly scrubbing all of that:-) Separately, if a document on this topic is to be adopted by any IETF WG, I think the adoption call ought be widely circulated (esp to saag, and art-area lists) as this is a topic that is likely to attract interest from various folks in other areas, and it'd be much better to figure out early and not late if others also see problems with this draft. Cheers, S. PS: I'm not subscribed to the int-area list so please do cc' me on any follow ups.
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