Hmm.... strange On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:14 PM, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote: > i juz feel odd coz when i use V1.1 WDDM mode, there is no degrade in > performance for me...in Warcraft3 i mean.. > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Hmm there might be another reason also. From what I read, theres 2 >> ways for a driver to work in WIndows, Kernel mode and User mode. >> >> I think Kernel mode is faster then User mode, however user mode is >> more reliable when a driver crashes. In which case, the 950gma XP >> driver works in kernel mode, where as WDDM drivers work under user >> mode. >> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Hmm...strange. I wonder why is your performance barely affected when >> > mine changed pretty dramatically... >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:22 AM, NeoDragon <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> I hate to be the black sheep but.... I've just reinstalled XP sp3 ( i >> >> was curious with your performance post ) and well... it didn't really >> >> change anything.. Well.. I did get about 4 fps more in Dalaran, but i >> >> mean, that's really not worth staying on an aging os. If you haven't >> >> tried it out yet, get yourself a x64 copy of Windows 7, i was running >> >> evrything pretty fine with it, but I'm always in the search for better >> >> fps ;) >> >> >> >> On Jan 24, 1:33 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If games work better in XP but worse in VIsta or 7, it is most likely >> >>> that it is the gfx driver (give u tried the obvious things like >> >>> windows updates, disabling services). So yea It should work on any >> >>> graphics card in theroy. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Pavapizza <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > wow how can that be??? >> >>> >> >>> > is this also applicable on x3100?? >> >>> >> >>> > On Jan 24, 1:23 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> Ha! That does make a difference... >> >>> >> >>> >> (FPS captured with Xfire, and also FPS is based on whenever I >> >>> >> looked >> >>> >> at it, may not be average) >> >>> >> >>> >> Win 7 Stock Drivers >> >>> >> 42 Menu >> >>> >> 45 Ingame on Booty Bay no Camera Movement >> >>> >> >>> >> Win XP Stock Drivers >> >>> >> 51 Menu >> >>> >> 60 Ingame >> >>> >> >>> >> On Jan 23, 11:29 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> > This does sound a bit interesting, I just reinstalled windows 7, >> >>> >> > ill >> >>> >> > go try to do a test. Right now im using the latest intel stock >> >>> >> > drivers >> >>> >> > for my 945gm and ill test out war3 once I get everything >> >>> >> > situated, >> >>> >> > Then ill try the latest XP drivers. >> >>> >> >>> >> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Espionage724 >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> > > Hmmmm....so...in theroy, installing XP drivers inside vista >> >>> >> > > would make >> >>> >> > > games that like XPDM run better? >> >>> >> >>> >> > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:52 PM, swt >> >>> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> > >> The original post is >> >>> >> > >> fromhttp://bbs.deepin.org/read.php?tid=298909 >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> I just translated it. >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> So, there is a lot of complaints of gma950's10% more >> >>> >> > >> performance lose >> >>> >> > >> on Vista comparing with XP, despite that Vista drains system >> >>> >> > >> resource >> >>> >> > >> significantly, another cause is Intel's shitty WDDM driver. >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> The idea comes from Intel's support page: >> >>> >> >>> >> > >>http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-023606.htm >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> Q3: Is Intel providing WDDM drivers for Intel Graphics Media >> >>> >> > >> Accelerator 900 (Intel GMA 900) on Intel 915 Express >> >>> >> > >> chipset-based >> >>> >> > >> platforms? >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> A3: Intel will provide support for WDDM drivers beginning with >> >>> >> > >> the >> >>> >> > >> Intel® 945 Express chipset family and beyond. See question 5 >> >>> >> > >> below >> >>> >> > >> for a detailed explanation of WDDM support on Intel® 915 >> >>> >> > >> Express >> >>> >> > >> chipset-based platforms. However, Windows Vista is supported >> >>> >> > >> on the >> >>> >> > >> Intel® 865G, 915G Express desktop chipsets and 852/855GM >> >>> >> > >> mobile >> >>> >> > >> chipsets running XPDM (XP Display Driver Model) driver >> >>> >> > >> included on the >> >>> >> > >> Windows Vista install media. Windows Vista will install on >> >>> >> > >> these >> >>> >> > >> platforms, but advanced features such as Windows Aero will not >> >>> >> > >> be >> >>> >> > >> enabled as XPDM drivers do not support Windows AERO. >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> Using old platform drivers (XPDM), Users would gain back 99% >> >>> >> > >> performance on Vista (However you can not enable aero or >> >>> >> > >> support newer >> >>> >> > >> games in trade). >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> Here are some test reults: >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> 3dmark01 >> >>> >> > >> On XP: 5268 >> >>> >> > >> Vista drivers: 4400 >> >>> >> > >> XP drivers on Vista:5175 (almost the same as on XP) >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> Warcraft3 >> >>> >> > >> menu: >> >>> >> > >> Vista drivers: 47 fps >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> Xp drivers: 60 fps >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> dota: >> >>> >> > >> Vista drivers: 34 fps >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> Xp drivers: 47 fps >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> See the diffrence. >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> And my idea is, may Angelic, Mad or other capable modders >> >>> >> > >> implement/ >> >>> >> > >> plant some codes in XPDM to WDDM to give more performence in >> >>> >> > >> Vista/7? >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> swt >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> -- >> >>> >> > >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> >>> >> >>> >> > > -- >> >>> >> > > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> >>> >> >>> >> > -- >> >>> >> > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> >>> >> >>> > -- >> >>> > INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> >> >> >> -- >> >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> >> -- >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > -- > INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >
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