Hmm, is it possible to switch the current MD to use WDDM 1.1? I think you or someone else mentioned that switching it to 1.1 made it buggy but I'm curious to try it.
And about your Warcraft 3 performance... you also have a 950GMA? with device id's 27A2 or 27A6? Because if so, then I really don't see a difference...which still makes me wonder why War3 doesn't degrade in performance for u or why Neo's WoW runs the same in XP as in 7. But then again he has a different gfx... On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm.... strange > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:14 PM, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote: >> i juz feel odd coz when i use V1.1 WDDM mode, there is no degrade in >> performance for me...in Warcraft3 i mean.. >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hmm there might be another reason also. From what I read, theres 2 >>> ways for a driver to work in WIndows, Kernel mode and User mode. >>> >>> I think Kernel mode is faster then User mode, however user mode is >>> more reliable when a driver crashes. In which case, the 950gma XP >>> driver works in kernel mode, where as WDDM drivers work under user >>> mode. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Hmm...strange. I wonder why is your performance barely affected when >>> > mine changed pretty dramatically... >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:22 AM, NeoDragon <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> I hate to be the black sheep but.... I've just reinstalled XP sp3 ( i >>> >> was curious with your performance post ) and well... it didn't really >>> >> change anything.. Well.. I did get about 4 fps more in Dalaran, but i >>> >> mean, that's really not worth staying on an aging os. If you haven't >>> >> tried it out yet, get yourself a x64 copy of Windows 7, i was running >>> >> evrything pretty fine with it, but I'm always in the search for better >>> >> fps ;) >>> >> >>> >> On Jan 24, 1:33 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> If games work better in XP but worse in VIsta or 7, it is most likely >>> >>> that it is the gfx driver (give u tried the obvious things like >>> >>> windows updates, disabling services). So yea It should work on any >>> >>> graphics card in theroy. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Pavapizza <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > wow how can that be??? >>> >>> >>> >>> > is this also applicable on x3100?? >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Jan 24, 1:23 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> Ha! That does make a difference... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> (FPS captured with Xfire, and also FPS is based on whenever I >>> >>> >> looked >>> >>> >> at it, may not be average) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Win 7 Stock Drivers >>> >>> >> 42 Menu >>> >>> >> 45 Ingame on Booty Bay no Camera Movement >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Win XP Stock Drivers >>> >>> >> 51 Menu >>> >>> >> 60 Ingame >>> >>> >>> >>> >> On Jan 23, 11:29 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > This does sound a bit interesting, I just reinstalled windows 7, >>> >>> >> > ill >>> >>> >> > go try to do a test. Right now im using the latest intel stock >>> >>> >> > drivers >>> >>> >> > for my 945gm and ill test out war3 once I get everything >>> >>> >> > situated, >>> >>> >> > Then ill try the latest XP drivers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Espionage724 >>> >>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> > > Hmmmm....so...in theroy, installing XP drivers inside vista >>> >>> >> > > would make >>> >>> >> > > games that like XPDM run better? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:52 PM, swt >>> >>> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> > >> The original post is >>> >>> >> > >> fromhttp://bbs.deepin.org/read.php?tid=298909 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> I just translated it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> So, there is a lot of complaints of gma950's10% more >>> >>> >> > >> performance lose >>> >>> >> > >> on Vista comparing with XP, despite that Vista drains system >>> >>> >> > >> resource >>> >>> >> > >> significantly, another cause is Intel's shitty WDDM driver. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> The idea comes from Intel's support page: >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >>http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-023606.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> Q3: Is Intel providing WDDM drivers for Intel Graphics Media >>> >>> >> > >> Accelerator 900 (Intel GMA 900) on Intel 915 Express >>> >>> >> > >> chipset-based >>> >>> >> > >> platforms? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> A3: Intel will provide support for WDDM drivers beginning with >>> >>> >> > >> the >>> >>> >> > >> Intel® 945 Express chipset family and beyond. See question 5 >>> >>> >> > >> below >>> >>> >> > >> for a detailed explanation of WDDM support on Intel® 915 >>> >>> >> > >> Express >>> >>> >> > >> chipset-based platforms. However, Windows Vista is supported >>> >>> >> > >> on the >>> >>> >> > >> Intel® 865G, 915G Express desktop chipsets and 852/855GM >>> >>> >> > >> mobile >>> >>> >> > >> chipsets running XPDM (XP Display Driver Model) driver >>> >>> >> > >> included on the >>> >>> >> > >> Windows Vista install media. Windows Vista will install on >>> >>> >> > >> these >>> >>> >> > >> platforms, but advanced features such as Windows Aero will not >>> >>> >> > >> be >>> >>> >> > >> enabled as XPDM drivers do not support Windows AERO. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> Using old platform drivers (XPDM), Users would gain back 99% >>> >>> >> > >> performance on Vista (However you can not enable aero or >>> >>> >> > >> support newer >>> >>> >> > >> games in trade). >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> Here are some test reults: >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> 3dmark01 >>> >>> >> > >> On XP: 5268 >>> >>> >> > >> Vista drivers: 4400 >>> >>> >> > >> XP drivers on Vista:5175 (almost the same as on XP) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> Warcraft3 >>> >>> >> > >> menu: >>> >>> >> > >> Vista drivers: 47 fps >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> Xp drivers: 60 fps >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> dota: >>> >>> >> > >> Vista drivers: 34 fps >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> Xp drivers: 47 fps >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> See the diffrence. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> And my idea is, may Angelic, Mad or other capable modders >>> >>> >> > >> implement/ >>> >>> >> > >> plant some codes in XPDM to WDDM to give more performence in >>> >>> >> > >> Vista/7? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> swt >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> -- >>> >>> >> > >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- >>> >>> >> > > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > -- >>> >>> >> > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- >>> >>> > INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Espionage724 Has A Signature... >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Espionage724 Has A Signature... >>> >>> -- >>> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> >> -- >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> > > > > -- > Espionage724 Has A Signature... > -- Espionage724 Has A Signature... -- INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
