Never knew that much info about CPU's even existed... lol Thx ppls :) On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with you on all fronts :( > > Celeron was okay, but Atom... (frustrated face here...). > > The Neo, IMO, is worse. Specifically the one my HP DV2 shipped with. Not > only is it a single core, but unlike the other AMD CPU of the time (maybe > that is why they are called Neo?), it's based off of the ancient K8 > architecture!! This architecture was retired once the Core 2 Duos came out, > c'mon... I know they were decent against the Pentium 4, but that's ancient > news, especially with the power draw of the stinking Neo CPU. What's worse? > The dual core version is based on the k10 microarchitecture, and is waaaay > more than twice as fast. > > To save a slimey 50usd (promotional price) at the time, I shot myself in the > foot with a rebar gun (imagine a nail gun that shoots 3/4" iron rebar...). > > > Okay... maybe I shouldn't send this one out, lol... > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> No synthetic benchmarks, just real world apps, be it games or >> productivity apps. >> >> What really bums me out is that I thought the worse pos cpu in the >> world couldn't go lower, the celeron, but they had to go and create >> atom :S btw, isn't that amd neo something similar, being used in >> netbooks too? >> >> On Aug 4, 5:10 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: >> > There was a Q7xxx line? Any ways, with the madhouse exception of the >> > QX9xxx >> > series (they are capable of matching an i5 in many applications!!), the >> > Phenom II X4 9xx line matches up with the Q9xxx line, with the 965BE on >> > top. >> > It depends if you are pursing synthetic benchmarks (some of which use >> > Intel's compiler - which helps optimise it for Intel CPU's instruction >> > setup >> > process), or usage benchmarks. >> > >> > Of course, the AMD has already been solidly whooped in the mobile CPU >> > department, ever since the lga1156 platform went mobile (bringing with >> > it >> > the i7 quads). >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:04 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Maybe Q7xxx or Q8xxx might be handled by Phenom II X4, but Q9xxx are >> > > not. >> > > And yes, it was time AMD launched new mobile cpus. I didn't like those >> > > turions just the same of those intel pentium dual cores launched. >> > >> > > On Aug 4, 2:46 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Only the Intel quad +HT. Normal quads are handled by the Phenom II >> > > > X4 >> > > line. >> > > > Which, AMD just (finally, after the longest freakish wait) launhed >> > > > their >> > > > Phenom II mobile line, and finally booted the last of the old K8 >> > > > (Athlon >> > > 64) >> > > > CPU architecture!!! (Phenom is K10, Phenom II is K10.5). >> > >> > > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:22 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > Go with i5. When games fully use 6 cores, your computer will be >> > > > > out of >> > > > > date. Also, have in account that current amd 6 core cpus have >> > > > > similar >> > > > > performance to intel 4 core cpus, so that gives you an idea of the >> > > > > performance. >> > >> > > > > On Aug 4, 1:38 am, Namige <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > Well let's just say gaming >> > >> > > > > > On Aug 3, 11:28 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > That depends. How many cores do you actually need? And what is >> > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > computer for? >> > >> > > > > > > On Aug 3, 5:12 pm, Namige <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > Which is better. Phenom II x6 or Core i5? >> > >> > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:21 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > Forgot to add amd cpus. Athlon II have great performance >> > > > > > > > > if you >> > > > > want >> > > > > > > > > to tinker around with them, Phenom II BE are the way to go >> > > > > > > > > when >> > > it >> > > > > > > > > comes about Amd. Their fusion technology is very >> > > > > > > > > interesting. >> > > But >> > > > > > > > > again, they have the same power/price relation with intel >> > > > > > > > > as >> > > Ati >> > > > > has >> > > > > > > > > with nvidia, meaning Intel costs more than Amd but is more >> > > > > powerful, >> > > > > > > > > Nvidia costs more than Ati but is also more powerful. >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:08 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Either get a really fast dual core like a E8400, or go >> > > > > > > > > > for >> > > > > regular and >> > > > > > > > > > above quad cores like Q9400, but know that i7 is king of >> > > > > > > > > > all. >> > > And >> > > > > > > > > > since having a fast cpu paired with a slow gpu will give >> > > > > > > > > > you >> > > > > lower >> > > > > > > > > > performance, set minimum performance standards (after >> > > > > > > > > > all, >> > > you >> > > > > want a >> > > > > > > > > > dramatically different experience from intel, right?) >> > > > > > > > > > with >> > > > > acceptable >> > > > > > > > > > pricing range. Medium range gpus are your best bet. A >> > > > > > > > > > nvidia >> > > > > GTX260 is >> > > > > > > > > > a medium to high end gpu that has plenty of horsepower >> > > > > > > > > > and >> > > will >> > > > > last >> > > > > > > > > > you for years, or you can wait for price reductions on >> > > GTX460, if >> > > > > you >> > > > > > > > > > really need dx11 support. You can also save a bit more >> > > > > > > > > > and >> > > > > instead of >> > > > > > > > > > a GTX260 you can go for a GTS250. On ati side you can go >> > > > > > > > > > with >> > > a >> > > > > HD >> > > > > > > > > > 4890, or a HD 5750 for dx11 support. >> > > > > > > > > > Nvidia 8SP/Ati 40SP is the nearest thing you have from >> > > > > > > > > > intel, >> > > so >> > > > > it's >> > > > > > > > > > the thing you want to avoid the most. You have very >> > > > > > > > > > cheap >> > > nvidias >> > > > > with >> > > > > > > > > > 32SP that runs things at smooth fps if you set your game >> > > configs >> > > > > > > > > > right. >> > > > > > > > > > One last note, a better cpu isn't just a faster cpu by >> > > itself, it >> > > > > also >> > > > > > > > > > speeds other components as well. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:56 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > What to know? At least: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > dual core (no, a very fast single core will not cut >> > > > > > > > > > > it) >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > All of the below info is clock-rate dependant. >> > > > > > > > > > > ATi 40SP is good enough for any game at min settings >> > > > > > > > > > > at >> > > > > 1200x800... most of >> > > > > > > > > > > the time. It will not fail to run, but it is heavily >> > > limited in >> > > > > graphics >> > > > > > > > > > > settings, no matter what. >> > > > > > > > > > > ATi 80SP is good enough to max out nearly all games >> > > > > > > > > > > (no AA) >> > > at >> > > > > 1200x800, if >> > > > > > > > > > > clocked to 500MHz+ >> > > > > > > > > > > ATi 400SP is good enough to run well at medium >> > > > > > > > > > > settings at >> > > > > 1600x1200 >> > > > > > > > > > > ATi 800SP is good enough to run (depending on clocks) >> > > > > > > > > > > at >> > > max >> > > > > settings at >> > > > > > > > > > > 1080p >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > nVidia 8SP follows the same as ATi 40SP >> > > > > > > > > > > nVidia 16SP follows the same as ATi 80SP >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > That's all I know, all of it from empirical >> > > > > > > > > > > experience. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you! >> > > > > > > > > > > -Jeremy >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Espionage724 < >> > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > Espionage724 >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Namige < >> > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt they'll give you a newer model, they >> > > > > > > > > > > > > probably >> > > will >> > > > > give you a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > refubished one. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your gamertag? >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 1:12 am, Espionage724 < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sounds like me when I tried to make my 360 RROD >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> so I >> > > could >> > > > > get a newer >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> model :p I tried shutting the fans off, closing >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> the >> > > vents, >> > > > > putting a >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> hair dryer towards the vents, playing GTA IV, >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> nothing >> > > I >> > > > > did killed it, >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> and it still hasn't died :p >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Namige < >> > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > There are many great laptops that Asus makes, >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > but >> > > their >> > > > > design looks >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > shabby. Alienware Laptops are great, but their >> > > desktop >> > > > > counterparts >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > are ridiculously overpriced(Even more than >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Apple) >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > One more thing. I bought 4 year warranty for my >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Sony >> > > > > Vaio and it looks >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > like it is going to waste even though I've had >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > my >> > > laptop >> > > > > for 3 and a >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > half years and also overclock my Laptop 30% >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > since >> > > the >> > > > > past year and as >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > of now, it hasn't died on me. That's annoying. >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > I >> > > want my >> > > > > laptop to die >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > so I can get a replacement! >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Jul 29, 5:53 pm, hussam aulaian < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> when u buy a Machine >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 1- dont buy intel stuff >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 2- the GPU should be GDDR3 and above only , >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> dont >> > > even >> > > > > look at lower >> > > > > > > > > > > > stuff >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 3- Buy ASUS stuff as THEfog said , bcuz they >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> are >> > > the >> > > > > best in the >> > > > > > > > > > > > Business >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 4- dont get near : >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> a- Dell ( bad components used in their devices >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> esp >> > > the >> > > > > Capacitors ) >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> b- Foxconn ( one of the worst Motherboard ive >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> seen >> > > so >> > > > > far) >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> c- Fujitsu & Acer ( worst laptops i ever seen >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> ) >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> d- LG ( best vendor for home appliances but >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> for >> > > sure >> > > > > dont buy their >> > > > > > > > > > > > laptops >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> worst warranty ever ) >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> laptop vendors i recommend >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> A- hp ( price and good Hardware but dont get >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> near >> > > their >> > > > > DV4 models >> > > > > > > > > > > > they hav >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> heat issues ) >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> B- Toshiba (solid laptops that can handle alot >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> ) >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> C- ASUS ( ofcourse) >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> B- Alienware >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Acer TravelMate 2480 >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> GFX: GMA950 CPU: Intel Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> RAM: >> > > 2GB >> > > > > DDR2 333Mhz >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> HDD: Samsung 120GB 5400RPM SATA- Hide quoted >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> text - >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > Acer TravelMate 2480 >> > > > > > > > > > > > GFX: GMA950 CPU: Intel Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz >> > > > > > > > > > > > RAM: >> > > 2GB >> > > > > DDR2 333Mhz >> > > > > > > > > > > > HDD: Samsung 120GB 5400RPM SATA >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> > >> > > -- >> > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> > >> > >> >> -- >> 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > -- > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >
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