No synthetic benchmarks, just real world apps, be it games or productivity apps.
What really bums me out is that I thought the worse pos cpu in the world couldn't go lower, the celeron, but they had to go and create atom :S btw, isn't that amd neo something similar, being used in netbooks too? On Aug 4, 5:10 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > There was a Q7xxx line? Any ways, with the madhouse exception of the QX9xxx > series (they are capable of matching an i5 in many applications!!), the > Phenom II X4 9xx line matches up with the Q9xxx line, with the 965BE on top. > It depends if you are pursing synthetic benchmarks (some of which use > Intel's compiler - which helps optimise it for Intel CPU's instruction setup > process), or usage benchmarks. > > Of course, the AMD has already been solidly whooped in the mobile CPU > department, ever since the lga1156 platform went mobile (bringing with it > the i7 quads). > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:04 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > Maybe Q7xxx or Q8xxx might be handled by Phenom II X4, but Q9xxx are > > not. > > And yes, it was time AMD launched new mobile cpus. I didn't like those > > turions just the same of those intel pentium dual cores launched. > > > On Aug 4, 2:46 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Only the Intel quad +HT. Normal quads are handled by the Phenom II X4 > > line. > > > Which, AMD just (finally, after the longest freakish wait) launhed their > > > Phenom II mobile line, and finally booted the last of the old K8 (Athlon > > 64) > > > CPU architecture!!! (Phenom is K10, Phenom II is K10.5). > > > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:22 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Go with i5. When games fully use 6 cores, your computer will be out of > > > > date. Also, have in account that current amd 6 core cpus have similar > > > > performance to intel 4 core cpus, so that gives you an idea of the > > > > performance. > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:38 am, Namige <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well let's just say gaming > > > > > > On Aug 3, 11:28 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > That depends. How many cores do you actually need? And what is the > > > > > > computer for? > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 5:12 pm, Namige <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Which is better. Phenom II x6 or Core i5? > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:21 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Forgot to add amd cpus. Athlon II have great performance if you > > > > want > > > > > > > > to tinker around with them, Phenom II BE are the way to go when > > it > > > > > > > > comes about Amd. Their fusion technology is very interesting. > > But > > > > > > > > again, they have the same power/price relation with intel as > > Ati > > > > has > > > > > > > > with nvidia, meaning Intel costs more than Amd but is more > > > > powerful, > > > > > > > > Nvidia costs more than Ati but is also more powerful. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:08 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Either get a really fast dual core like a E8400, or go for > > > > regular and > > > > > > > > > above quad cores like Q9400, but know that i7 is king of all. > > And > > > > > > > > > since having a fast cpu paired with a slow gpu will give you > > > > lower > > > > > > > > > performance, set minimum performance standards (after all, > > you > > > > want a > > > > > > > > > dramatically different experience from intel, right?) with > > > > acceptable > > > > > > > > > pricing range. Medium range gpus are your best bet. A nvidia > > > > GTX260 is > > > > > > > > > a medium to high end gpu that has plenty of horsepower and > > will > > > > last > > > > > > > > > you for years, or you can wait for price reductions on > > GTX460, if > > > > you > > > > > > > > > really need dx11 support. You can also save a bit more and > > > > instead of > > > > > > > > > a GTX260 you can go for a GTS250. On ati side you can go with > > a > > > > HD > > > > > > > > > 4890, or a HD 5750 for dx11 support. > > > > > > > > > Nvidia 8SP/Ati 40SP is the nearest thing you have from intel, > > so > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > the thing you want to avoid the most. You have very cheap > > nvidias > > > > with > > > > > > > > > 32SP that runs things at smooth fps if you set your game > > configs > > > > > > > > > right. > > > > > > > > > One last note, a better cpu isn't just a faster cpu by > > itself, it > > > > also > > > > > > > > > speeds other components as well. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:56 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What to know? At least: > > > > > > > > > > > dual core (no, a very fast single core will not cut it) > > > > > > > > > > > All of the below info is clock-rate dependant. > > > > > > > > > > ATi 40SP is good enough for any game at min settings at > > > > 1200x800... most of > > > > > > > > > > the time. It will not fail to run, but it is heavily > > limited in > > > > graphics > > > > > > > > > > settings, no matter what. > > > > > > > > > > ATi 80SP is good enough to max out nearly all games (no AA) > > at > > > > 1200x800, if > > > > > > > > > > clocked to 500MHz+ > > > > > > > > > > ATi 400SP is good enough to run well at medium settings at > > > > 1600x1200 > > > > > > > > > > ATi 800SP is good enough to run (depending on clocks) at > > max > > > > settings at > > > > > > > > > > 1080p > > > > > > > > > > > nVidia 8SP follows the same as ATi 40SP > > > > > > > > > > nVidia 16SP follows the same as ATi 80SP > > > > > > > > > > > That's all I know, all of it from empirical experience. > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > -Jeremy > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Espionage724 < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Espionage724 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Namige < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt they'll give you a newer model, they probably > > will > > > > give you a > > > > > > > > > > > > refubished one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your gamertag? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 1:12 am, Espionage724 < > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sounds like me when I tried to make my 360 RROD so I > > could > > > > get a newer > > > > > > > > > > > >> model :p I tried shutting the fans off, closing the > > vents, > > > > putting a > > > > > > > > > > > >> hair dryer towards the vents, playing GTA IV, nothing > > I > > > > did killed it, > > > > > > > > > > > >> and it still hasn't died :p > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Namige < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > There are many great laptops that Asus makes, but > > their > > > > design looks > > > > > > > > > > > >> > shabby. Alienware Laptops are great, but their > > desktop > > > > counterparts > > > > > > > > > > > >> > are ridiculously overpriced(Even more than Apple) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > One more thing. I bought 4 year warranty for my Sony > > > > Vaio and it looks > > > > > > > > > > > >> > like it is going to waste even though I've had my > > laptop > > > > for 3 and a > > > > > > > > > > > >> > half years and also overclock my Laptop 30% since > > the > > > > past year and as > > > > > > > > > > > >> > of now, it hasn't died on me. That's annoying. I > > want my > > > > laptop to die > > > > > > > > > > > >> > so I can get a replacement! > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Jul 29, 5:53 pm, hussam aulaian < > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> when u buy a Machine > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 1- dont buy intel stuff > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 2- the GPU should be GDDR3 and above only , dont > > even > > > > look at lower > > > > > > > > > > > stuff > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 3- Buy ASUS stuff as THEfog said , bcuz they are > > the > > > > best in the > > > > > > > > > > > Business > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> 4- dont get near : > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> a- Dell ( bad components used in their devices esp > > the > > > > Capacitors ) > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> b- Foxconn ( one of the worst Motherboard ive seen > > so > > > > far) > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> c- Fujitsu & Acer ( worst laptops i ever seen ) > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> d- LG ( best vendor for home appliances but for > > sure > > > > dont buy their > > > > > > > > > > > laptops > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> worst warranty ever ) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> laptop vendors i recommend > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> A- hp ( price and good Hardware but dont get near > > their > > > > DV4 models > > > > > > > > > > > they hav > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> heat issues ) > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> B- Toshiba (solid laptops that can handle alot ) > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> C- ASUS ( ofcourse) > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> B- Alienware > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > > > > > > > >> > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > > > > >> Acer TravelMate 2480 > > > > > > > > > > > >> GFX: GMA950 CPU: Intel Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz RAM: > > 2GB > > > > DDR2 333Mhz > > > > > > > > > > > >> HDD: Samsung 120GB 5400RPM SATA- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Acer TravelMate 2480 > > > > > > > > > > > GFX: GMA950 CPU: Intel Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz RAM: > > 2GB > > > > DDR2 333Mhz > > > > > > > > > > > HDD: Samsung 120GB 5400RPM SATA > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > > -- > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > -- 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
