lol, well, i already checked my audio, HD Audio - ALC888S...using default
MSI drivers though...not yet check my laptop, but still, can u teach me how
to improve sound quality? ^^

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:37 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm looking for a tool that gives me the orange settings ;) and that
> does them in a safe way.
>
> Can you be a little more detailed? I mean, just go to realtek control
> panel, in the information menu there's the chipset. If you don't have
> the control panel, RUN to realtek website, download and install the
> latest drivers. Realtek is possibly the fastest manufacturer to deploy
> drivers, like 1 a month or more. Is it  ALC260, ALC650, ALC888, etc?
> Some time ago I used a laptop with a Realtek ALC888, and the sound
> wasn't so bad as I expected, but still a 50$ external soundcard still
> beats it by far :)
>
> WASAPI is meant to be a bit-matched playback output, meaning that when
> an app is outputting through WASAPI, all other sounds will be muted,
> as they degrade audio quality. WASAPI is meant for music only, or HQ/
> HD video. But depending on the sound signature of your chipset and
> your speakers, the sound might seem a little cold, meaning the
> frequency response is flat, which is something that can be useful for
> studio work but not for regular listening.
>
> On 16 Nov, 18:23, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> > hmm..didnt know that before, very detailed explanation indeed...
> > i never concern about pc audio before ^^
> >
> > btw i have a Realtek Semiconductor standard on board audio, comes with
> the
> > MSI 770 - C45 mobo..same as my laptop...
> > lol, never heard of WASAPI before...learned something new today..i'll
> give
> > it a try later on, and the Gigatweaker looks promising at least if it not
> > using some auto tool tweaking stuff,
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:17 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Oh, ok, I didn't get what you mean. The funny thing is that creative
> > > made EAX 1 and 2 open source, but those sound better by a little
> > > amount, adding more reverbs and echos that real positional audio,
> > > which came with EAX 3. From 3 to 5 it's still proprietary, with only
> > > one brand other than creative having access to EAX 5, and that's just
> > > because they are modding x-fi chipsets. Creative is doing a lot of sh!
> > > t these days, with very bloated software coming with their drivers,
> > > but their hardware is still the best for gaming, and quite good for pc
> > > audio. Take a look at my specs on the members page and see the
> > > soundcard I have, then check the price ;) I do recommend it to anyone
> > > who can listen the difference between crappy onboard and dedicated
> > > audio solutions ;P
> > > Btw, it's good that you have that Aiwa plugged in, as it will
> > > strengthen the audio signal a bit.
> >
> > > I know that Linux can have quite good sound, but xp is awful when it
> > > comes to sound, mainly because of its kmixer that really degrades
> > > audio, and that's why high-end soundcards bypass the internal mixer.
> > > Vista and 7 on the other hand have really good sound by default, and
> > > if you use WASAPI, then it's very close to perfection, given the
> > > limitation of your audio hardware. Speaking of that, what is your
> > > sound device?
> >
> > > Also, take a look at GigaTweaker, perhaps (I only said perhaps) could
> > > be a potential replacement for X-Setup:http://7room.net/gigatweaker/
> >
> > > On 16 Nov, 18:04, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > lol..i never said EAX for music and stuffs...it's just i missed
> playing
> > > > games in EAX...pure quality...
> > > > hmm, i never thought about that..but i do noticed music sounded a lot
> > > better
> > > > in Linux and XP...but i still can live with that...im using a Aiwa
> mini
> > > > Hi-fi as output btw..connected by mini 3.5 - to - RCA cable ^^
> >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:58 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Well, after microsoft and creative started a pissing contest with
> each
> > > > > other, hardware acceleration was disabled, so creative had to make
> a
> > > > > workaround for that since they are the leading pc soundcard
> > > > > manufacturer. They created a f#uck!ng amazing software called
> ALchemy,
> > > > > that converts DS3D calls to OpenAL, which means I play my games in
> all
> > > > > their EAX 4.0 glory :D (for the ones that support that, that is).
> But
> > > > > you're mixing things, EAX is an environmental engine that's used
> for
> > > > > games, it isn't used for music or movies.
> > > > > The onboard chips that go around computers nowadays are a little
> less
> > > > > crappy, but are still very bad, and the physical plugs that
> > > > > manufacturers use don't help sound quality at all, as well as a
> > > > > complete lack of EMI shielding (which can be made at home just with
> > > > > stuff people have in their kitchen;) ).
> > > > > What kind of tweaks are you talking about, also what's outputting
> > > > > sound on your pc?
> >
> > > > > On 16 Nov, 17:49, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > yeah, and what i see from the last version (9.10 if not mistaken)
> > > their
> > > > > > included plugin up to vista..no new tweak for 7...indeed a great
> > > loss...
> >
> > > > > > lol, an Ipv4 extermination counter...lol...but still, our ISP is
> a
> > > little
> > > > > > slow on advancing their services...
> >
> > > > > > ah, pc audio...as far as it's crappy nowadays, i do hate the fact
> > > that
> > > > > > win7/vista disables EAX completely...EAX was the best system in
> audio
> > > > > > history for stereo users...
> > > > > > lol, and i do noticed that almost ALL mobo uses Realtek
> audio..it's
> > > not
> > > > > too
> > > > > > bad but still not good enough either...speaking of which, how can
> u
> > > tweak
> > > > > > the audio quality other than playback rate and freq tweaking?
> >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:39 AM, tribaljet <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > For free?? Damn, that was one of my trusted software too :D
> It's
> > > truly
> > > > > > > a great loss for computers in general :S
> > > > > > > Well, take a look here and see more or less when to expect
> really
> > > big
> > > > > > > changes:http://www.inetcore.com/project/ipv4ec/index_en.html
> > > > > > > Btw, I'm thinking of creating a topic about computer audio,
> what do
> > > > > > > you think of it? I know that most computer users have really
> crappy
> > > > > > > onboard audio and things like that, but with a little tweak
> tweak
> > > > > > > here, a little tweak tweak there, and things might not be so
> crappy
> > > :)
> >
> > > > > > > On 16 Nov, 17:32, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > ipv6..hmm, i do want to test it but i dont have any active
> use
> > > for
> > > > > ipv6
> > > > > > > > yet..
> >
> > > > > > > > speaking of trusted tweaking software..dont forget the famous
> > > X-Setup
> > > > > > > > Pro...it's too bad though they discontinued it... :(
> > > > > > > > but still the last version available for download and their
> > > giving
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > activation key for free... :) so recommended anyone to give
> it a
> > > > > try...
> >
> > > > > > > > and yes, Solutp is a unique tool indeed..and i like the PC
> genome
> > > > > thingy
> > > > > > > ^^
> >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:26 AM, tribaljet <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I know, I've been using it for many years now, got some
> > > licenses
> > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > doing some work for them. Great stuff, and in about a year
> or
> > > so,
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > curious to try their replacement ipv6 solution.
> > > > > > > > > Soluto just sounds interesting for their database, the
> tweaks
> > > are
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > me, or a software which I can put my full trust on, and it
> > > still
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > way too much road to walk :)
> >
> > > > > > > > > On 16 Nov, 17:18, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > lol, sure thing..i find that software to be the most
> > > interesting
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > this year...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Manager? which manager? soluto or cFos?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > lol, cFos is a must for me, installed it in every system
> i
> > > > > > > had...mostly
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > download stuffs and lower my ping time, so far i can
> pawned
> > > very
> > > > > hard
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > MW2
> > > > > > > > > > with cFos,,,^^
> >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:14 AM, tribaljet <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In case there are significant changes when it gets
> final,
> > > do
> > > > > make a
> > > > > > > > > > > neat post on the group :)
> > > > > > > > > > > So you like that manager? ;)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Nov, 17:12, AngelicTears <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > hmm...as far as i use it ( just 3 - 4 times, lol,
> after
> > > that
> > > > > i
> > > > > > > turn
> > > > > > > > > its
> > > > > > > > > > > > service manual)
> > > > > > > > > > > > it is pretty stable...their are some application dont
> > > > > recognize
> > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > that's because their PC Genome database isn't done
> > > > > yet..setting
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > apply
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > it remembers what u have done recently so u can undo
> what
> > > uve
> > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > > > > > as easily..
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > there are some bug that i managed to pin point..
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > first ..when an application set to delay start up (
> start
> > > > > after
> > > > > > > OS
> > > > > > > > > boots
> > > > > > > > > > > )
> > > > > > > > > > > > there are some major gap when the OS finished booting
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > application
> > > > > > > > > > > > should start (the Soluto service manually delay the
> > > > > application,
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > OS
> > > > > > > > > > > > ) for example, my cFos Bandwidth Manager started 30
> > > seconds
> > > > > after
> > > > > > > OS
> > > > > > > > > > > boots.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > second..the service itself consume a approx 3 second
> on
> > > my
> > > > > boot
> > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > ( i
> > > > > > > > > > > > manage to save just 1 second with that software) so
> an
> > > extra
> > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > seconds
> > > > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > > the soluto service set to automatic..
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > other than that there's no major bug...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > mainly what i like about this piece of software is
> not
> > > > > because it
> > > > > > > > > saves
> > > > > > > > > > > boot
> > > > > > > > > > > > time, it actually shows what's running during boot
> up,
> > > and i
> > > > > mean
> > > > > > > > > > > > accurately...
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's still in beta, so the bugs mentioned above is
> still
> > > > > > > > > acceptable...i
> > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > hope that their minimize their software resource
> usage
> > > during
> > > > > > > boot up
> > > > > > > > > ..
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:01 AM, tribaljet <
> > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I've read about it, and it could be useful to
> install
> > > on
> > > > > > > computers
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > maintain, but my laptop boot is already configured
> as
> > > it
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > be.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you find it stable? I ask because I read
> that it
> > > > > > > sometimes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't change settings, as well as making proper
> > > rollback
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > settings you changed, which is the biggest issue
> imo.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Nov, 16:58, AngelicTears <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol, that's truly right...we can assume that Game
> > > booster
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > "beginners
> >
> > ...
> >
> > mais informações »
>
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