If the issues I've seen were happening with me and with me alone, I'd mention that. Unfortunately, those issues happened with a few computers, as in most computers I tried. The issues were more severe with version 1.6.1 and 1.7.0. Now, I understood clearly what you said, and having a more pleasant experience has its worth indeed. But no audiophile in the world puts "candy" on their sound, the source is the content to be listened to, it is my opinion, as it is the opinion of many noteworthy audiophiles. The worse thing about srs is when people use it for quite some time, then turn it off and find out that the original sound is much cleaner, with more detail, unadulterated sound. But yes, sound is quite subjective. It's just that I don't think that because someone doesn't have a trained ear, that they should remain at listening to DFX's and SRS's of this life, when they already have much closer to the original sound already. Yes, I said closer as onboard chipsets still process sound. I still don't quite understand what's your point of view about sound, but encouraging people to use "enhancers" is kinda suspicious.
The thought just came to my mind, you talked about creative, but it's interesting you didn't mention kxproject, which is very similar to Angelic's V1.2, from the group up, with stability and several features that just weren't on any of the original stock drivers. On 8 Jan, 12:03, Nin-lil-izi <[email protected]> wrote: > Human perception is not a perfectly tuned machine. Every person is not > subject to the same qualitative experience. There is no magic > adaptation to finding a certain thing more pleasant. Every ear is > unique as is the neuro circuitry behind it. Different people are > sensitive to different frequency ranges. Some won't tell the > difference. Others will find the sharp edge of treble if its too clean > annoying. Just the same as people vary in so many other ways in > physically. > Listening to the pure source being the best option is your opinion. > Just as listening to a filtered source is the best option according to > somebody else opinion. > If Mad_Dog enjoys' the effect of playing with SRS, then good for him > and I hope it proves an interesting auditory experience. > IMHO, things are not as black & white as you paint them. Just because > somebody has a different opinion to yourself. It does not make it > wrong, it just makes it different. > > Yes, weird bugs can be introduced between media lib's, drivers and > extra filters implanted in the middle. But every setup is different. > Just because it caused problems in your usage scenario. Somebody > else's, they may find it suits just fine. > > On Jan 8, 10:55 am, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > My point is that listening to the source as it was made and meant to > > be listened in the first place is the best option imho. Human ear > > adapts to any situation it's faced with, so would be better to adapt > > to the cleanest it can since it's something it already has available, > > the source at hand. We're not talking about hardware, but software. > > You know that advances in sound really depend on hardware. > > Forgot to say a very important thing, games are badly affected by srs > > audio sandbox, audio crackles, games crash more often, and forget > > about positional cues as it destroys that. > > > People should make the informed choice. > > > On 8 Jan, 09:46, Nin-lil-izi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Those SRS 'enhancement' things? > > > > As I understand it, the difference they create in music versus the > > > source. Is much the same as the difference between a pure digital > > > source and the same thing recorded in vinyl. > > > > They make music sound 'warmer', but less accurate. Essentially > > > throwing away some of the sharper details and smoothing out the wave a > > > bit. > > > > What both cases have in common is they are a lossy conversion. > > > I would not quote anything being fact in relation to which is better. > > > The end result is subjective. > > > The pure source is technically superior. > > > But the filtered output is more pleasing to the ear. But only due to > > > imperfections in the way the average humans ears and brain are wired > > > up. > > > > Which is relevant to a lot of audio technologies over the years. Due > > > to the subjective effect of differences in perception between people. > > > Defining which may be superior given a specific situation is never as > > > clear cut as just adding up the numbers. > > > > Would you say that is fair? > > > > On Jan 8, 9:44 am, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hum. I get the updates too, but I have 9xxssf always open, but I > > > > understand why you weren't following the thread. > > > > I don't take it well when there is a hint of being a fan of this or > > > > that, I merely state the facts, whether I like them or not. That was > > > > the reference I was talking about, not that you were talking about, > > > > which was quite some time ago, and as far as I recall, things were > > > > solved back then. > > > > > I didn't want to come as aggressive, but like I said that I don't > > > > really take it so well when there are insinuations. I like things out > > > > in the open. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. > > > > > Ok, how about you sharing some thoughts with MAD_BEAST as to why he > > > > shouldn't use SRS Audio Sandbox? :) > > > > > On 8 Jan, 08:36, Nin-lil-izi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I do read all the updates as they reach my inbox. But it is easy to > > > > > get skewed between life and the multi days worth of digests a long > > > > > thread can spam. > > > > > I've not called anybody names. I've been perfectly civil, so am unsure > > > > > what you are referring to. > > > > > If its in reference to the mis-understanding where I jokingly called > > > > > America a third world country in reference to its infrastructure a few > > > > > months back. I already apologised back then. > > > > > > Now please, could you ease up a little on the aggression :-( > > > > > > On Jan 8, 8:53 am, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > That's why previous posts are to be read, and not jump in and just > > > > > > start writing. You better think things straight before you start > > > > > > calling other people names. I answered accordingly. But don't worry, > > > > > > like I said, I don't take any merit to the D2X sound quality, just > > > > > > that it's too expensive, and not suited for games at all, overall > > > > > > doesn't seem like a good choice for the matter discussed before all > > > > > > this talk between you and me. > > > > > > > MAD, I tried that thing in the past, but it's really a crutch, and > > > > > > it > > > > > > degrades audio much more than you can imagine, it's just the brain > > > > > > that initially processes the audio changes as being better, but > > > > > > they're far from it. And I don't know where you get that you're old > > > > > > :D > > > > > > Crazy? Yes, but not old ;) We were just discussing about different > > > > > > soundcards. Also, that does take cycles that our 9xx chipsets can't > > > > > > really afford to spare, but mainly the real issue is that is > > > > > > degrades > > > > > > the audio signal in ways that are just not desired. If using only > > > > > > onboard sound, better use the tools your chipset provides as they > > > > > > are > > > > > > already in use, though the less you mess with onboard EQ, the > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > On 8 Jan, 07:46, Nin-lil-izi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I guess the fanguy really likes his sound card :-) > > > > > > > Chill, there is no need to be so militant. I was just offering my > > > > > > > dissenting opinion not asking for abuse. > > > > > > > I frankly find your attitude offensive. > > > > > > > > I never realised anybody was asking for suggestions for a laptop, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > thought it was about sound cards in general. > > > > > > > It is hard to keep track of where a thread is going when you only > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > a few posts a time out of a few threads in your inbox. and a > > > > > > > discussion gets fragmented into numerous little blocks split > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > emails over a random period. > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 8:15 am, MAD_BEAST <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > i dont know what you guys talikng about im TOO OLD to read that > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > all i see i sound software and sound cards... correct me if im > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > IM GOING TO RECOMMEND TO YOU SRS SANDBOX 5.1 its a virtual > > > > > > > > SOUND CARD > > > > > > > > it really improves the performance and quality of sound of the > > > > > > > > PCI > > -- 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
