Zeev,

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pádraic Brady [mailto:padraic.br...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 9:00 PM
>> To: Zeev Suraski
>> Cc: Bob Weinand; PHP Internals
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [INFO] Basic Scalar Types
>>
>> On 15 March 2015 at 16:55, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> wrote:
>> > Bob,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the update.  This time, though, although I completely
>> > respect your decision not to put your RFC into a vote unless the Dual
>> > STH mode fails, I'd like to either (with your permission) take over
>> > the RFC or propose my own copy and move it to voting as soon as
>> > allowed.  This, under a commitment that if I see that Basic STH is
>> > failing to garner a clear majority, I'll retract it and move to
>> > support the Dual STH RFC instead for the sake of unity.
>>
>> No one individual has the right to break the existing rules around voting.
>> There has been more than sufficient time to date to rewrite the voting
>> rules,
>> debate voting rights, extend PHP7's deadline, or propose the basic RFC so
>> described. A vote in contravention of the voting rules at the last
>> possible
>> minute cannot, by definition, be recognised at this time. I wouldn't even
>> vote
>> since it might lend it an air of ill deserved legitimacy, forgetting for a
>> moment whether a few PEAR contributions make me any more deserving of
>> a vote than others.
>
> No rule is being broken.
>
> The PHP 7 timeline RFC (wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline) states the following:
> Line up any remaining RFCs that target PHP 7.0.   |     Now - Mar 15 (4+
> additional months)
>
> As Bob pointed out, what 'Line up' means - whether it means vote ends, vote
> begins, or discussion begins - is completely open to interpretation.  I
> don't remember what I meant when I wrote it, but arguably, 'line up' is a
> lot closer to 'start discussing' than 'finish voting', and as is typically
> the case when something is unclear, the most lax interpretation is
> acceptable.

By your own words: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=142451267910615&w=2

> Following Adam's analysis of the timeline, taking the more 'strict' (no pun 
> intended!) interpretation of the timeline RFC, we still have until tomorrow 
> to start the discussion and still target it for 7.0, no?  Given the 
> importance of this topic, I'd go for the more lax interpretation that allows 
> for votes to begin by March 15, giving us all a bit more time to discuss.

**votes to begin by March 15**. That was the interpretation you used a
month ago.

Anthony

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