On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen <te...@terah.com.au> wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter <johan...@schlueters.de> >> wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote: >> > > You have to admit, NNTP news is an aging technology, with fewer and >> > > fewer readers available as time goes on. Nowadays (for graphical >> > > clients), there's Pan, and Thunderbird, and...? I use Thunderbird at >> the >> > > moment, because I didn't want to fill up my email, and there aren't too >> > > many readers. Heck, Thunderbird is technically a "discontinued" >> product. >> > >> > ... and with a forum there is only a single client. The forum >> > itself. ;-) >> > >> > SCNR, >> > johannes >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > >> > >> Redmine would be a good option. http://www.redmine.org/ >> >> The feature list has most everything covered in this thread. >> http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/Features >> >> >> >> -- >> > > > hi, > > maybe it just me, but it seems to me, that every time this idea is brought > up, not many people from the actual participants of the list speak up, but > bunch of people who never before sent a mail to the list will chip in. > I'm not saying that there is nothing to improve, but I think that it would > be important to actually incorporate some feedback from the people actually > generating the content on the list. > personally I would prefer moving to something like google groups and doing > in a way that we can preserve archives ( > https://github.com/wojdyr/fityk/wiki/MigrationToGoogleGroups) > that would allow us to actually kill our ancient list/ezmlm infrastructure > along with news.php.net which would be a huge win. > it would also make it much more easier to search/link to our mailing lists > archives: > news.php.net has no way of searching, news://news.php.net is pretty slow, > we have a couple of mail archives like > https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/ which are indexing > some of our mailing lists, but they don't have the archives from the > beginings, but I remember seeing a mail from them to ask for our archives > in an mbox and they then would be able to add the missing indexes. > moving to google groups would also make it much easier to manage the groups > (there are less people familiar with ezmlm administration than people with > google groups experience) and make it easier to reply to old mails. > > I think that would suit our usage pattern better than a forum and > personally I don't really want to start hosting/maintaining one (we should > have to integrate our own auth and probably acl into that, security audit, > keep it up-to-date, etc.). > > -- > Ferenc Kovács > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
Not to pile in another voice from not a long-term participant, but here's my unsolicited $0.02 on this matter: Personally, I'd be fine with Google Groups. I recently set a few up for internal discussions (mostly to coordinate future blog posts for Paragon and brainstorm project ideas) and they're quite pleasant. One question (open for everyone, I don't necessarily expect Ferenc to know): Can we still archive messages on third-party sites (e.g. gmane.org/marc.info)? I've not delved into integration yet. Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises <https://paragonie.com> -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
