On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Scott Arciszewski <sc...@paragonie.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen <te...@terah.com.au> wrote: > > > >> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter <johan...@schlueters.de> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote: > >> > > You have to admit, NNTP news is an aging technology, with fewer and > >> > > fewer readers available as time goes on. Nowadays (for graphical > >> > > clients), there's Pan, and Thunderbird, and...? I use Thunderbird at > >> the > >> > > moment, because I didn't want to fill up my email, and there aren't > too > >> > > many readers. Heck, Thunderbird is technically a "discontinued" > >> product. > >> > > >> > ... and with a forum there is only a single client. The forum > >> > itself. ;-) > >> > > >> > SCNR, > >> > johannes > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > >> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >> > > >> > > >> Redmine would be a good option. http://www.redmine.org/ > >> > >> The feature list has most everything covered in this thread. > >> http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/Features > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > > > > > > hi, > > > > maybe it just me, but it seems to me, that every time this idea is > brought > > up, not many people from the actual participants of the list speak up, > but > > bunch of people who never before sent a mail to the list will chip in. > > I'm not saying that there is nothing to improve, but I think that it > would > > be important to actually incorporate some feedback from the people > actually > > generating the content on the list. > > personally I would prefer moving to something like google groups and > doing > > in a way that we can preserve archives ( > > https://github.com/wojdyr/fityk/wiki/MigrationToGoogleGroups) > > that would allow us to actually kill our ancient list/ezmlm > infrastructure > > along with news.php.net which would be a huge win. > > it would also make it much more easier to search/link to our mailing > lists > > archives: > > news.php.net has no way of searching, news://news.php.net is pretty > slow, > > we have a couple of mail archives like > > https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/ which are indexing > > some of our mailing lists, but they don't have the archives from the > > beginings, but I remember seeing a mail from them to ask for our archives > > in an mbox and they then would be able to add the missing indexes. > > moving to google groups would also make it much easier to manage the > groups > > (there are less people familiar with ezmlm administration than people > with > > google groups experience) and make it easier to reply to old mails. > > > > I think that would suit our usage pattern better than a forum and > > personally I don't really want to start hosting/maintaining one (we > should > > have to integrate our own auth and probably acl into that, security > audit, > > keep it up-to-date, etc.). > > > > -- > > Ferenc Kovács > > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu > > Not to pile in another voice from not a long-term participant, but > here's my unsolicited $0.02 on this matter: > > Personally, I'd be fine with Google Groups. I recently set a few up > for internal discussions (mostly to coordinate future blog posts for > Paragon and brainstorm project ideas) and they're quite pleasant. > > One question (open for everyone, I don't necessarily expect Ferenc to > know): > Can we still archive messages on third-party sites (e.g. > gmane.org/marc.info)? I've not delved into integration yet. > > Scott Arciszewski > Chief Development Officer > Paragon Initiative Enterprises <https://paragonie.com> > it is possible and there is preference for it: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/16642 http://www.ossec.net/?page_id=21 -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
