> On 23 בנוב׳ 2015, at 15:51, Rasmus Lerdorf <ras...@lerdorf.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 15:21, Anthony Ferrara <ircmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Rasmus,
>> 
>>> I think this was mostly a PR failure on my part actually. If I/we are a bit 
>>> more careful about how we handle similar issues and the people lurking with 
>>> itchy Twitter trigger fingers would spend a bit more time looking into the 
>>> details we should all be able to get along and get a good launch with no 
>>> controversy on Dec.3.
>> 
>> Sorry, but when you make a statement like:
>> 
>>> Nobody is going to take a .0.0 and push it straight to production.
>> 
>> THAT is more than a PR failure. That's a perspective failure.
> 
> I still don't see anyone going straight to production with 7.0.0 unless they 
> have been extensively testing the RCs. And if they have been extensively 
> testing the RCs then any issues in them must not be impacting them. 7.0.0 is 
> the wake up call for all the people who haven't been testing the RCs and as 
> such it will generate more issues, regardless of how long we wait. That's why 
> I still wouldn't suggest anyone go straight to production with 7.0.0 even if 
> we delay another full year. This has nothing to do with being cavalier nor 
> having a perspective failure about anything, it has to do with being 
> realistic and pragmatic about how things work based on years of experience 
> doing this.
> 
> Every single release in the history of PHP has been a compromise. We have RCs 
> until the set of fixes from one RC to the next is free of major issues. There 
> will always be more issues, so we have to make a release decision at some 
> point.

+1 on each and every word.

Zeev
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