On 27 Feb 2007, at 06:45, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:

On 2007-02-26, Samer Abdallah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Speaking of ideas for Ion4, if such a thing should ever come to pass,
has anyone come across/have opinions about acme (from plan9)?

Sucks on the tabletop computer, being heavily pointing-device oriented
in an application requiring textual input. Whereas combined use of the
mouse and the keyboard can work great in applications like Blender and
FPS games, it simply won't work in applications where you type a lot.
Agreed, the worst thing is *forcing* the user to switch rapidly between
mouse and keyboard, but not all applications involve a lot of text input.
I think it's good to have the option of doing as much as possible one
way or the other, because I find it helps combat fatigue and muscle strain
to be able to switch from pure keyboard use to, say, leaning back,
changing position, and doing things with the mouse for a while. If you
give people the option, they can choose whichever mode is most comfortable
for them *at that time*.

As far as this relates to ion, the keyboard-orientation aspect
is orthogonal to the tiled/tabbed window management aspect and there is
no reason that a window manager like ion can't extract the maximum utility from the mouse. It's actually not too bad as it is, and the cfg_mouse script does a bit more. The main problem is the overall lack of creative ideas (everywhere that is, not specifically in ion) about how to do useful and powerful things with the mouse without it being too fiddly and taking up a lot of screen space
with pointless and ugly widgets.

Not with the standard two-handed keyboards, and I've yet to see a better
text input method.

Such a "type/store commands somewhere" interface could, however, work
nicely on a pocket book sized touch screen tablet (a real lightweight
one, not a bloated pseudo-tablet of the hinged laptops) with hand- writing recognition, where the keyboard would necessarily be too crappy to have
at all.
I tried morse code on my iPod linux once, which was ..um.. interesting. At least
it doesn't use any screen space.

Some other ideas:
        http://www.strout.net/info/ideas/hexinput.html
        http://www.speedscript.biz/default.aspx
        http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
A common problem with these is that they take up a lot of screen space, but I
think the gestural aspects of the first two along with the predictive
aspect of dasher could be quite promising, especially when the predictive model could be specialised for different applications, eg English language text
vs coding vs terminal session etc.

Samer




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Tuomo


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