On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 16:29 -0400, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, M Rawash wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 23:43 -0400, Timandahaf wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, M Rawash wrote: > > > > now that tuomov has finally severed his last remaining connection > > > > with ion, what do we (committed ion users) do now? > > > > > > First, thanks for starting this thread! I did notice that Tuomov's > > > pages were down, but since his whole site was down, I was waiting > > > for it to come back without realizing he might have taken the whole > > > project down. Quick question: do we know for sure Tuomov has > > > severed connections with ion3 permanently or is this our best guess > > > at this point? > > > > It's a pretty solid guess... > > Tuomo responded to an email on this list on March 22. Maybe he's just > on vacation. He's complained often about the lack of good, simple web > hosting.
Tuomo's website 404'd, the rest of the (host) website and all the other accounts look pretty fine to me, doesn't seem like a problem with the host at all (although it's still possible). > Seems slightly hasty to not wait to hear from the man himself > that the project is "abandoned"-abandoned (as opposed to "I've switched > to Windows, and don't plan to support this"). i believe forking was already on a lot of people's minds for some time now (as somebody else mentioned), the fact that the website is no longer available merely served as a motivation. > > > ion3 has been my primary environment for a while now, and I won't > > > consider changing. I love its design, philosophy, and simplicity, > > > but I'm preaching to the choir here. > > > > > > I'm all for forking into /one/ fork, and that too only because of > > > the licensing issue--please lets not make multiple messy forks. Like > > > a few of you, I don't have much time either right now, but expect to > > > be able to contribute a more a few months down the line. But I can > > > contribute towards getting us going right now if needed. > > Personally, I don't understand everyone's reluctance to even consider > changing. not true, i suggest you dig deeper into this thread... > Ion's great 'n all, but without extremely committed > leadership, there doesn't seem to be much point to forking. (Either it > will remain the useful tool it is and only get bugfixes, or it'll bitrot > completely.) Why not branch out and get other similar-minded window > managers (under active development) to incorporate some of what you love > about ion? now why didn't 'we' think of that? i believe anybody who could have left has already done so. so... > Guessing that won't be a popular sentiment, but whatever. Not trying to > completely discourage anyone -- just adding my $.02. > we're ion users, we are used to unpopular sentiments; we should get a prise or something.
