On 10/28/2016 04:24 PM, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 10/28/2016 04:56 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
>> On Oct 28, 2016 5:35 PM, "Mats Wichmann" <mats at osg.samsung.com 
>> <mailto:mats at osg.samsung.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/28/2016 04:33 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
>>>> On Oct 28, 2016 5:25 PM, "Nivedita Singhvi" <niveditasinghvi at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com> <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> While the wiki page lists the names of the architects, maintainers
>>>>> and other contacts, it does not provide an email (except for a few)
>>>>> or other contact info:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.iotivity.org/projects_and_functionsrmation.
>>>>>
>>>>> While it's possible to hunt down some folks on the mailing list or via
>>>>> the git tree (not always reachable, or accessible to all), it would be
>>>>> nice to have the preferred email contact available off that wiki page,
>>>>> or elsewhere, following the model that the Linux Kernel Maintainers
>>>>> file takes.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/linux/MAINTAINERS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would the iotivity community please consider this?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> I know not everyone is always here all the time, but is there a problem 
>>> with mailing to this list?
>>>
>> not sure I understand the question.  personally I prefer that everything be 
>> discussed on this list, but as a matter of fact that is not what happens 
>> with gerrit.  tons of stuff gets discussed only by the people included as 
>> gerrit reviewers, and the results end up presented to the rest of us as 
>> facts on the ground.
>>
>> somewhere on the web there is a great article explaining why email is the 
>> best way to deal with patches (esp. wrt to linux) but naturally I cannot 
>> find it.
>
> I know well the materials to which you refer, about email discussions. Greg 
> KH has commented, and presented, at length on the topic. Some people think we 
> who agree with that are dinosaurs :)
>
>> I think this is a (relatively) major problem with a gerrit-based project.
>>
>> one obvious way to begin to address this is to send daily digests.
>
> I think we could take 20 people and get >20 discrete opinions.  It's no good 
> if important discussion gets buried in the reviewing tool so most people 
> don't see it or are able to find it.  It's not any better if so much is in 
> email that only the people whose job it is to live 12 hours a day parsing 
> those emails as maintainers can keep track of if all the parts of something 
> have been handled.  Mostly it has to do with work styles, I believe.  Since 
> I'm mainly a kibitzer here, I should stop now.
>
>
> Personally, I think a Maintainers file inside the project is a reasonable 
> proposal (I wasn't trying to shoot that down, just hint that I don't see this 
> list used that much for detailed technical discussion and we could try that).

Thanks, Mats!

I share the sentiments wrt Gerrit (it has been hard to join this
project and come up to speed, and I've yet to get to the point
where I can even submit a patch).  I would very much like to
second the request to use this mailing list much more for technical
discussions, including bug stuff (not internal bug infrastructure).


thanks,
Nivedita

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