On 10/28/2016 04:26 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
> On Oct 28, 2016 6:05 PM, "Nivedita Singhvi" <niveditasinghvi at gmail.com
> <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/28/2016 03:56 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2016 5:35 PM, "Mats Wichmann" <mats at osg.samsung.com
> <mailto:mats at osg.samsung.com>
>>> <mailto:mats at osg.samsung.com <mailto:mats at osg.samsung.com>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/28/2016 04:33 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
>>>> > On Oct 28, 2016 5:25 PM, "Nivedita Singhvi"
>>>
>>> <niveditasinghvi at gmail.com <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com>
> <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com>>
>>> <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com>
> <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com <mailto:niveditasinghvi at gmail.com>>>>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hello,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While the wiki page lists the names of the architects, maintainers
>>>> >> and other contacts, it does not provide an email (except for a few)
>>>> >> or other contact info:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://wiki.iotivity.org/projects_and_functionsrmation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While it's possible to hunt down some folks on the mailing list
> or via
>>>> >> the git tree (not always reachable, or accessible to all), it
> would be
>>>> >> nice to have the preferred email contact available off that wiki
> page,
>>>> >> or elsewhere, following the model that the Linux Kernel Maintainers
>>>> >> file takes.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://www.kernel.org/doc/linux/MAINTAINERS
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Would the iotivity community please consider this?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > +1
>>>>
>>>> I know not everyone is always here all the time, but is there a
>>>
>>> problem with mailing to this list?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> not sure I understand the question.  personally I prefer that everything
>>> be discussed on this list, but as a matter of fact that is not what
>>> happens with gerrit.  tons of stuff gets discussed only by the people
>>> included as gerrit reviewers, and the results end up presented to the
>>> rest of us as facts on the ground.
>>>
>>> somewhere on the web there is a great article explaining why email is
>>> the best way to deal with patches (esp. wrt to linux) but naturally I
>>> cannot find it.
>>>
>>> I think this is a (relatively) major problem with a gerrit-based project.
>>>
>>> one obvious way to begin to address this is to send daily digests.
>>>
>>> -gregg
>>>
>>
>> https://lwn.net/Articles/702177/
>>
>> Is that the one you're referring to?
>>
> close enough.  not sure it's the article I remember but it make the same
> points.  thanks!  I spent a good 10 minutes googling linux, kernel,
> email, and got nothing but stuff about the best email clients. :)
>
> anyway the point I would like to make is this: iotivity is supposed to
> be open source.  which it is, as far as licensing is concerned.  but an
> open source project should really have an open process, which imho
> iotivity does not have.  I'm very grateful that the Big Companies
> contributing to it make their code available but I confess I'm a little
> miffed that so much of what they do happens behind the scenes.  take 1.2
> as an example. massive changes, none of which (or at least few of which)
> have been openly discussed on this list.  e.g. going to mbeddtls.  I
> have not had the time to monitor 1.2, and since most of it has not been
> openly discussed on the list I have no idea what I'm in for.  not so
> good, imo.
>
> -gregg

That's disconcerting to hear. I hope that's not the direction this
project continues. It makes it much harder for an external potential
contributor and a newbie to participate, and loses quite a bit of the
value and advantage the open source process has, imho.


thanks,
Nivedita



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