Okay lets take flash out of the equation - and lets take Banners ads out too while we're at it. Ad servers are the biggest drag on response times from what I see on a daily basis.

Some would argue that disabling flash could be considered a violation of "net neutrality"....

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On 1/29/10 11:26 AM, Remi Grumeau wrote:
I agree with your point on the handhelds, and while the iPad could definitely be considered a hand held, I think Apple's plan is to capture the net book users who want something that looks pretty, which the Air failed to do. I can think of far bigger reasons it may not get adopted than flash.....

Assuming the device has the same OS limitations as the iPhone and iPod the list follows.... No File system or browser - no file downloads and storage, iWorks will probably have its own internal system that only uses its files

The app store being the only way to install software means only app store approved applications - no downloading of a whole internet of useless and useful software.

Safari will probably still have File form inputs disabled - they could at least enable the iPhone OS devices access to the camera roll for uploads.

Personally I can forgive a lot of these for my iPhone, but if I were looking for a device like the iPad I would want a lot more freedom and regular computer options.

Agree.
I hope the next MSI will have all of those, but Flash® is to me, for mobile handheld, just a good way to suck down your battery in 3 hours and be a good memory leak problem.
Perhaps Asus will strike the market like they did with netbooks...

If everything gets slow and webpages take twice time to show because of those 3 flash banners, thanks i'll be good without it :)

Remi

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Remi Grumeau <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Mass adoption is used to limitations … Flash Lite is available on
    quite a few phones out for a year and a half now: iPhone is the
    most sold phone out.
    Flash is a must have on desktop, but people are not used to have
    flash on handheld so well...

    Le 29 janv. 2010 à 09:29, Victor Hudson a écrit :

    I agree from a Developer Geek POV, but if they want mass
    adoption of the device they shouldv'e put flash support in. I
    think the general web surfer can overlook its exclusion on the
    iPhone and iPod platforms, due to screen size and bandwidth
    limitations, but on a screen that size even with bandwidth
    limitations most people will expect to view the full internet.



    On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Maximilian Melcher
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Seriously who needs flash? Use html5 ;)



        Am 29.01.2010 um 14:06 schrieb Jorge Chamorro
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        > On 29/01/2010, at 13:46, Ben Marchbanks wrote:
        >
        >> Interestingly during the demo of the iPad this week by
        Steve Jobs
        >> he unwittingly pulled up a web page with
        >> flash content. Immediately there appeared the BBD "blue
        box of
        >> disappointment" or "plugin required" icon.
        >> So for all the hype iPad, like its baby brother the
        iPhone, will
        >> not be able to play Flash.......
        >
        > ...which is a Good Thing™.
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