look as a VERY experienced flash developer..this arguement of 'lets ditch flash for HTML5' is the same bs arguement that was said when the AJAX crazy came out.
flash is an EXCELLENT platform...you can recreate the entire iPad experience in flash...and then some..that is why Jobs doesnt want flash on the iphone..it can allow for a complete replacement of the iPad interface. with flash you can write a touch OS from scratch. so just because html5 now offers video is a completely ignorant arguement for why flash should not be used. flash is infinitely more than video or ytoube On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]>wrote: > That's all about communication ... > If you explain the consumer that Flash is an ogre in performance and so > battery life and can be make your 500$ toy to crash, then people will be > fine without it ;) > But that would be a real slap in the face to Adobe, who is already pissed > off with Apple. > Anyway, they could provide a flash player on the iPad, that prompt the > user. Then a Safari option in System prefs could choose between Enable / > Disable / Prompt me each time. > Or even better : launch the flash movie only when you clic on the missing > flash movie blue icon… > Technical solution exists, that's not the real problem. > > Don't forget a big point: Flash provides developers to create pretty sexy > cross-platform webapps, and specially games, in just a few days. > Who would pay 300$ per year + 90$ per app submission to publish free > content on the AppStore where a flash webapp is free to publish and can also > accessible to Android users ? > Big money problem for Apple then … their business plan is based on the > AppStore + exclusive contents > > Remi > > Le 29 janv. 2010 à 11:31, 00Vic a écrit : > > > I personally won't argue your point about flash, I personally agree, > > but the average user will see it as crippled internet, no? > > > > On Jan 29, 11:26 am, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> I agree with your point on the handhelds, and while the iPad could > definitely be considered a hand held, I think Apple's plan is to capture the > net book users who want something that looks pretty, which the Air failed to > do. I can think of far bigger reasons it may not get adopted than flash..... > >> > >>> Assuming the device has the same OS limitations as the iPhone and iPod > the list follows.... > >>> No File system or browser - no file downloads and storage, iWorks will > probably have its own internal system that only uses its files > >> > >>> The app store being the only way to install software means only app > store approved applications - no downloading of a whole internet of useless > and useful software. > >> > >>> Safari will probably still have File form inputs disabled - they could > at least enable the iPhone OS devices access to the camera roll for uploads. > >> > >>> Personally I can forgive a lot of these for my iPhone, but if I were > looking for a device like the iPad I would want a lot more freedom and > regular computer options. > >> > >> Agree. > >> I hope the next MSI will have all of those, but Flash® is to me, for > mobile handheld, just a good way to suck down your battery in 3 hours and be > a good memory leak problem. > >> Perhaps Asus will strike the market like they did with netbooks... > >> > >> If everything gets slow and webpages take twice time to show because of > those 3 flash banners, thanks i'll be good without it :) > >> > >> Remi > >> > >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> Mass adoption is used to limitations … Flash Lite is available on quite > a few phones out for a year and a half now: iPhone is the most sold phone > out. > >>> Flash is a must have on desktop, but people are not used to have flash > on handheld so well... > >> > >>> Le 29 janv. 2010 à 09:29, Victor Hudson a écrit : > >> > >>>> I agree from a Developer Geek POV, but if they want mass adoption of > the device they shouldv'e put flash support in. I think the general web > surfer can overlook its exclusion on the iPhone and iPod platforms, due to > screen size and bandwidth limitations, but on a screen that size even with > bandwidth limitations most people will expect to view the full internet. > >> > >>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Maximilian Melcher < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Seriously who needs flash? Use html5 ;) > >> > >>>> Am 29.01.2010 um 14:06 schrieb Jorge Chamorro <[email protected] > >: > >> > >>>>> On 29/01/2010, at 13:46, Ben Marchbanks wrote: > >> > >>>>>> Interestingly during the demo of the iPad this week by Steve Jobs > >>>>>> he unwittingly pulled up a web page with > >>>>>> flash content. Immediately there appeared the BBD "blue box of > >>>>>> disappointment" or "plugin required" icon. > >>>>>> So for all the hype iPad, like its baby brother the iPhone, will > >>>>>> not be able to play Flash....... > >> > >>>>> ...which is a Good Thing™. > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Jorge. > >> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<iphonewebdev%[email protected]> > >>>>> . > >>>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en > >>>>> . > >> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<iphonewebdev%[email protected]> > . > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > >> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<iphonewebdev%[email protected]> > . > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > >> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<iphonewebdev%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > >> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<iphonewebdev%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iPhoneWebDev" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<iphonewebdev%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iPhoneWebDev" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<iphonewebdev%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. 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