And thinking about it... HTML5 is barely out and has yet to advance and work out its kinks. Maybe it can compete with Flash after a JS library for canvas comes out. And almost forgot, a big advantage of Flash is that it looks the same across all browsers. HTML looks and acts different depending on whether you are using Google, Safari, FireFox, Opera, IE, and then for each platform... Firefox on Mac, FireFox on PC, FireFox on Linux, etc. etc.
-G On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Ben Marchbanks wrote: > Okay lets take flash out of the equation - and lets take Banners ads out too > while we're at it. > Ad servers are the biggest drag on response times from what I see on a daily > basis. > > Some would argue that disabling flash could be considered a violation of "net > neutrality".... > > Ben Marchbanks > > > On 1/29/10 11:26 AM, Remi Grumeau wrote: >> >>> I agree with your point on the handhelds, and while the iPad could >>> definitely be considered a hand held, I think Apple's plan is to capture >>> the net book users who want something that looks pretty, which the Air >>> failed to do. I can think of far bigger reasons it may not get adopted than >>> flash..... >>> >>> Assuming the device has the same OS limitations as the iPhone and iPod the >>> list follows.... >>> No File system or browser - no file downloads and storage, iWorks will >>> probably have its own internal system that only uses its files >>> >>> The app store being the only way to install software means only app store >>> approved applications - no downloading of a whole internet of useless and >>> useful software. >>> >>> Safari will probably still have File form inputs disabled - they could at >>> least enable the iPhone OS devices access to the camera roll for uploads. >>> >>> Personally I can forgive a lot of these for my iPhone, but if I were >>> looking for a device like the iPad I would want a lot more freedom and >>> regular computer options. >> >> Agree. >> I hope the next MSI will have all of those, but Flash® is to me, for mobile >> handheld, just a good way to suck down your battery in 3 hours and be a good >> memory leak problem. >> Perhaps Asus will strike the market like they did with netbooks... >> >> If everything gets slow and webpages take twice time to show because of >> those 3 flash banners, thanks i'll be good without it :) >> >> Remi >> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Mass adoption is used to limitations … Flash Lite is available on quite a >>> few phones out for a year and a half now: iPhone is the most sold phone out. >>> Flash is a must have on desktop, but people are not used to have flash on >>> handheld so well... >>> >>> Le 29 janv. 2010 à 09:29, Victor Hudson a écrit : >>> >>>> I agree from a Developer Geek POV, but if they want mass adoption of the >>>> device they shouldv'e put flash support in. I think the general web surfer >>>> can overlook its exclusion on the iPhone and iPod platforms, due to screen >>>> size and bandwidth limitations, but on a screen that size even with >>>> bandwidth limitations most people will expect to view the full internet. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Maximilian Melcher >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Seriously who needs flash? Use html5 ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 29.01.2010 um 14:06 schrieb Jorge Chamorro <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> > On 29/01/2010, at 13:46, Ben Marchbanks wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Interestingly during the demo of the iPad this week by Steve Jobs >>>> >> he unwittingly pulled up a web page with >>>> >> flash content. Immediately there appeared the BBD "blue box of >>>> >> disappointment" or "plugin required" icon. >>>> >> So for all the hype iPad, like its baby brother the iPhone, will >>>> >> not be able to play Flash....... >>>> > >>>> > ...which is a Good Thing™. >>>> > -- >>>> > Jorge. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> > Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > . >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en >>>> > . >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iPhoneWebDev" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. 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