That's all about communication ...
If you explain the consumer that Flash is an ogre in performance and so battery 
life and can be make your 500$ toy to crash, then people will be fine without 
it ;)
But that would be a real slap in the face to Adobe, who is already pissed off 
with Apple.
Anyway, they could provide a flash player on the iPad, that prompt the user. 
Then a Safari option in System prefs could choose between Enable / Disable / 
Prompt me each time.
Or even better : launch the flash movie only when you clic on the missing flash 
movie blue icon…
Technical solution exists, that's not the real problem. 

Don't forget a big point: Flash provides developers to create pretty sexy 
cross-platform webapps, and specially games, in just a few days.
Who would pay 300$ per year + 90$ per app submission to publish free content on 
the AppStore where a flash webapp is free to publish and can also accessible to 
Android users ?
Big money problem for Apple then … their business plan is based on the AppStore 
+ exclusive contents

Remi

Le 29 janv. 2010 à 11:31, 00Vic a écrit :

> I personally won't argue your point about flash, I personally agree,
> but the average user will see it as crippled internet, no?
> 
> On Jan 29, 11:26 am, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I agree with your point on the handhelds, and while the iPad could 
>>> definitely be considered a hand held, I think Apple's plan is to capture 
>>> the net book users who want something that looks pretty, which the Air 
>>> failed to do. I can think of far bigger reasons it may not get adopted than 
>>> flash.....
>> 
>>> Assuming the device has the same OS limitations as the iPhone and iPod the 
>>> list follows....
>>> No File system or browser - no file downloads and storage, iWorks will 
>>> probably have its own internal system that only uses its files
>> 
>>> The app store being the only way to install software means only app store 
>>> approved applications - no downloading of a whole internet of useless and 
>>> useful software.
>> 
>>> Safari will probably still have File form inputs disabled - they could at 
>>> least enable the iPhone OS devices access to the camera roll for uploads.
>> 
>>> Personally I can forgive a lot of these for my iPhone, but if I were 
>>> looking for a device like the iPad I would want a lot more freedom and 
>>> regular computer options.
>> 
>> Agree.
>> I hope the next MSI will have all of those, but Flash® is to me, for mobile 
>> handheld, just a good way to suck down your battery in 3 hours and be a good 
>> memory leak problem.
>> Perhaps Asus will strike the market like they did with netbooks...
>> 
>> If everything gets slow and webpages take twice time to show because of 
>> those 3 flash banners, thanks i'll be good without it :)
>> 
>> Remi
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Mass adoption is used to limitations … Flash Lite is available on quite a 
>>> few phones out for a year and a half now: iPhone is the most sold phone out.
>>> Flash is a must have on desktop, but people are not used to have flash on 
>>> handheld so well...
>> 
>>> Le 29 janv. 2010 à 09:29, Victor Hudson a écrit :
>> 
>>>> I agree from a Developer Geek POV, but if they want mass adoption of the 
>>>> device they shouldv'e put flash support in. I think the general web surfer 
>>>> can overlook its exclusion on the iPhone and iPod platforms, due to screen 
>>>> size and bandwidth limitations, but on a screen that size even with 
>>>> bandwidth limitations most people will expect to view the full internet.
>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Maximilian Melcher 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Seriously who needs flash? Use html5 ;)
>> 
>>>> Am 29.01.2010 um 14:06 schrieb Jorge Chamorro <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>>>> On 29/01/2010, at 13:46, Ben Marchbanks wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Interestingly during the demo of the iPad this week by Steve Jobs
>>>>>> he unwittingly pulled up a web page with
>>>>>> flash content. Immediately there appeared the BBD "blue box of
>>>>>> disappointment" or "plugin required" icon.
>>>>>> So for all the hype iPad, like its baby brother the iPhone, will
>>>>>> not be able to play Flash.......
>> 
>>>>> ...which is a Good Thing™.
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