Hi Jim,

> The only way I for one would support what your saying is if we also
> defined the first bit of the flowlabel to denote it can be rewritable.
> That first bit set or not is decided by the client or the clients
> network (meaning a zone within which the client exists
> authoritatively).

Yes, I agree here in fact I'm writing a draft on this topic and the way I
have intended to see it (then we can debate if people agree) is that we
should have a dual-semantics of the flowlabel and inside the flow-label have
one bit telling if the flowlabel is globally unique and possibly one bit
telling if its ESP encrypted (see earlier discussion about changing the
length field to ip header length field)

>
> If this bit is set then any e-2-e predications are lost and
> users would
> need to understand that.

Agree.

>
> The other option is to use the traffic class bits.

If the bit is not set, you mean? If so of course - I agree.

>
> But I also think the flowlabel can be used when defined by the client
> and set by the client to assist greatly the evolution of the ECN model
> and help with increasing bandwidth efficiency with TCP to notify a
> client with a fast path for the search to find the clients
> entry in the
> table.

Why do you think we need to take extra bits from the flow-label? The way I
thougth most people saw it was to use to two unassigned bits in IPv4
ToS/IPv6 Traffic Class field for ecn??


> So I will argue what the router folks have done with MPLS will
> need to be done by those wanting faster searches for
> congestion and lost
> packets with TCP.

But why not use the extra two bits for ECN and use the flowlabel with dual
semantics:
1) intserv/per flow identification set by the client in the access
2) mpls like semantics in the core with a possibility to do mpls-like TE (I
say mpls like since it should be the same management software operating on a
different traffic plane - v6 header instead of mpls header)

-- thomas

--------------------------------------------------------------------
IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List
IPng Home Page:                      http://playground.sun.com/ipng
FTP archive:                      ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng
Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Reply via email to