Date:        24 Jan 2001 17:11:55 -0000
    From:        "D. J. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Message-ID:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  | I'd like to see you explain that to the owner of www.monty.de.

ps:...

brandenburg$ dig www.monty.de. a

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> www.monty.de. a 
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      www.monty.de, type = A, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.monty.de.           1D IN CNAME     monty.de.
monty.de.               1D IN A         151.189.12.194

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
monty.de.               1D IN NS        ns.norplex.net.
monty.de.               1D IN NS        ns2.norplex.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns.norplex.net.         1D IN A         151.189.12.193
ns2.norplex.net.        1D IN A         151.189.26.234

;; Total query time: 1850 msec
;; FROM: brandenburg.cs.mu.OZ.AU to SERVER: default -- 192.100.77.5
;; WHEN: Thu Jan 25 16:44:35 2001
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 30  rcvd: 146


The RTT from where I am at the minute to most of the world is 800ms
approx (or more):

PING ns.uu.net (137.39.1.3): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 137.39.1.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=791.274 ms
64 bytes from 137.39.1.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=235 time=771.218 ms
64 bytes from 137.39.1.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=235 time=828.094 ms

so to find that A record, all that could have been needed (in practice)
was just 2 round trips... (to get into Germany if that was ever actually
needed would take longer per round trip).

So, in practice, I suspect that the owner of we.monty.de is probably
not too worried, despite the absurd setup of the various nameservers
that leads to that domain.

Note that the answer had the AA bit set - it didn't just appear out
of some local cache.

kre

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