sorry.  Do not use site-local when sending to global if one has a global
source address should be the default.

/jim

On Fri, 25 May 2001, Jim Bound wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I may still object to it being a standards document.  I read roughly the
> 04 draft.  My main issue is that I do not believe one should EVER use a
> site-local address when sending to a GLOBAL address unless one has a
> global address available.  This does not appear to be a requirement of the
> algorithm, but I will check again on my plane ride to Seattle.  If it is I
> can't see any argument changing my mind for the default behavior.
> 
> As far as it being standards tracked I will forgo that issue and the
> reason is that precedence has been changed via ngtrans with some of the
> specs being standards tracked for transition and rich's work is better
> than a few of those in some instances and if they are standards track then
> so should this be.  I do believe though we in the IETF are on a slippery
> slope here and need to be careful for any pandora's box we have opened for
> lets say 2006 when we are working on technology we may not for see now as
> standard vs informational.  I should probably write a position paper on
> this for the IESG and IAB as an objective treatise of IETF epistemology.
> 
> As far as policy I hav changed my mind on this a bit because I think we
> could cause a mamor problem with IPv6 if we don't at least give some
> default guidance to the vendors and market regarding use of our multi
> scoped addressing architecture.  My normal laizze-faire view of our work
> here and my support or not support needs to be tempered in this case.
> 
> But then we get down to what is right and wrong.
> 
> Using same scope should be done as DEFAULT.  Anything else is very very
> bad.  My belief is that what Rich did.  But want to check one more time on
> the plane.
> 
> My other concerns are how the wording is in the selection process and if
> the spec tells me how I must implement this in libc, APIs, and most
> importantly how I would do the conditionals and data structures to support
> the draft.  If it is left open and not forced by any IETF SHOULD or MUST I
> am fine with it for my reasons above.  I will check this on the plane
> too.
> 
> As far as the issues not being resolved and the chairs sending a last
> call.  Well I will assume they belived the last call will flush the final
> discussions out on the list.  But I do think all the attached issues
> should be resolved.
> 
> thanks
> 
> /jim
> 
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > >This is a IPng working group last call for comments on advancing the 
> > >following document as a Proposed Standard:
> > >   Title           : Default Address Selection for IPv6
> > >   Author(s)       : R. Draves
> > >   Filename        : draft-ietf-ipngwg-default-addr-select-04.txt
> > >   Pages           : 20
> > >   Date            : 14-May-01
> > >Please send substantive comments to the ipng mailing list, and minor
> > >editorial comments to the author.  This last call period will end two
> > >week from today on June 7, 2001.
> > 
> >     were there concrete agreement made about standard-track/informational?
> >     i find the following on IETF50 minutes, nothing else (correct me
> >     if i'm wrong).  were there any poll on mailing list made?
> >     http://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng/html/minutes/ipng-minutes-mar2001.txt
> > 
> > itojun
> > 
> > 
> > ---
> > Jim Bound thinks this shouldn't be a standard, should be informational.
> > Thinks is policy.  This should be suggested recommendation, not default.
> > Draves: Thinks this document does have implementation requirements.
> > "Must" requirement have implementation consequences.  Bound: Doesn't
> > agree with some of the choices (e.g., selection of site scope as source
> > to send to global destination).
> > (snip)
> > Nordmark:  Thinks this should be standards track.  Splitting between must
> > and should.
> > 
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