Scott  Bradner writes:
 > Brian sez:
 > > In the intserv case, it is no different. In the diffserv case, the presumption
 > > is that we would use IANA-assigned, globally meaningful values, that are
 > > specific to a desired QOS treatment rather than to any individual traffic flow.
 > > The implementation details (including the DSCP value and router configurations)
 > > may differ from ISP to ISP, but the flow label bits convey end to end
 > > semantics. This is more powerful than port numbers whose semantics are poor at
 > > best for QOS purposes, and it works when the port numbers are invisible.
 > 
 > 
 > this still begs the question 
 > why do folk think that ISPs half way around the world would find it useful
 > to know what the sending computer wanted for QoS?  
 > 
 > at least in the case of difserv if an ISP gets a DSCP there is some
 > implied authorization by the previous network (ISP or enterprise) - how
 > does authorization happen in the case of imutable globally meaningful
 > values?
 > 
 > I see no reason to believe that such a field will be any use whatsoever
 > in providing QoS in the Internet - and it is redundant in an enterprise
 > because the enterprise can decide to not change the DSCP field
 > 
 > unless there is some hint of a way for this change to serve any useful
 > purpose we should just leave things as they are

   Since you can make the identical argument about
   5-tuple based classification, all you're saying
   here is that you don't believe in Intserv/RSVP. 
   Fine. There's a lot of people who disagree. With
   the current wording, a new flow spec for RSVP
   can be created ala RFC 2207 and we can all
   agree to disagree.

            Mike
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