>    And??

see http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/nsis-charter.html

   but you also seem to be saying that you can
   ignore if you drink the class based QoS Kool
   Aide.

no me - I did not say that

Scott

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Scott  Bradner writes:
 > >    Yes, and it almost always means "let's ignore
 > >    admission control" too.
 > 
 > yes, and that will be a real problem wherever the level of priority
 > traffic approaches the size of the links (which could easily happen
 > if video traffic gets prioritized)

   And??

   The hard part of all of this is that e2e 
   signaling for QoS is a genuine Hard Problem.
   Here you seem to acknowledge that it's needed,
   but you also seem to be saying that you can
   ignore if you drink the class based QoS Kool
   Aide.

                Mike

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