Jari,
So, this is getting a little off topic for this list, perhaps
we should move the discussion elsewhere?
Final comments below.
> However, I wouldn't like to design the Internet _just_ for
> the ISPs and the commercial providers. If I'm a small business
> or a home, I want to set-up my networks without infrastructure,
> and I want it to "just work". For instance, I could lay a
> network in my home, expect IPv6 to work without major
> holes even if I might be using open wireless LANs, and I
> would also expect to use other types of infrastructureless
> technology, such SSH for my e-mail forwarding and telnetting
> needs. I don't want to set-up anything, unless we can
> prove that it is necessary. And it doesn't appear to be,
> based on proof by example i.e. some proposals that don't
> need infrastructure.
>
I don't want to denigate the importance of SOHO and small
networks. Small networks are OK, but designing
something for the Internet based on an assumed small network
configuration would be a mistake, IMHO. The 802.11
committee made this mistake, and now we are trying
to get some attention to fixing it.
What I'm concerned about specifically is the upcoming
deployment of public access IPv6/802.11 networks that
have no security on ND. This is a looming real problem, and
I'd like to see the IETF develop some interoperability
specs to address it before it happens instead of afterwards.
So I'm not arguing from a theoretical or assumed future
scenerio case, but from a problem that I see looming
right now (NTT is deploying a prototype 802.11 network in
Kyoto at the moment).
I think the design needs to accommodate both small networks and
large networks, i.e. it must be scalable. I think that can be
achieved by providing space to leverage off the existing authentication
infrastructure if it is there. If it isn't, then infrastructureless
methods
are, of course, appropriate.
jak
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