On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Bound, Jim wrote:
> and that has produced horror not warm and fuzzy.

Exactly: horror to thow who know what they're about, warm and fuzzy who 
think they're safe.


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:02 AM
> > To: Bound, Jim
> > Cc: Michel Py; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bob Hinden; Steven M. 
> > Bellovin;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Fwd: IPv6 Scoped Addresses and Routing Protocols 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Bound, Jim wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't do warm and fuzzy in the IETF.  [...]
> > 
> > My point exactly.  I believe site-locals as a serious security measure
> > mainly provide a "warm fuzzy feeling" like NAT does with IPv4 today.
> > 
> > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 6:20 AM
> > > > To: Michel Py
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bob Hinden; Steven M. Bellovin;
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Fwd: IPv6 Scoped Addresses and Routing Protocols 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Michel Py wrote:
> > > > > > If there is widespread deployment of systems with 
> > site-local only
> > > > > > addresses, this will in turn drive the creation of ipv6 NAT
> > > > > > specifically to give them external connectivity..
> > > > > 
> > > > > That looks like a solution without a problem. To give 
> > these hosts
> > > > > connectivity you just have both the site-local and the 
> > > > global address.
> > > > > Since NAT would not bring anything to the table why 
> > > > implement it in the
> > > > > first place?
> > > > 
> > > > To give folks that think IPv4 private addresses provide security 
> > > > (especially wrt. incoming connections) a smooth transition 
> > > > path to IPv6 
> > > > and "warm fuzzy feeling".
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
> > > > Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
> > > > Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords
> > > > 
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> > Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
> > Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
> > Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords
> > 
> > 
> 

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords


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