EricLKlein wrote:

To keep in context this is what Naiming Shen wrote...

> > As long as we are clear that, the "site-local" does not get special
> > treatment in terms of routing and dns, we should care less about if
> > "site-local" is deprecated or still lived. It's perfectly fine and
> > actually somewhat useful if "site-local" plays the same role as in
> > IPv4 addresses defined in rfc1918.
> >

The complete point behind IPv6 and 128 bit addresses is that
we will get back what was once normal: End to End communication.
And for that one needs globally unique IP's.

If you imply site-locals this complete point is gone and then
one can better stay with IPv4 and one big InterNAT.

If you really want to have IP space for 'non-internet networks'
then one should talk to the RIRs and request address space for this.
This address space should then be divided in /48's and everyone who
has a requirement for IPv6 address space and has a network which is
not connected to the internet can request a /48 from that space.
This will at least enforce global uniqueness. One should note that
when one does connect to the internet this address space is futile as
a single /48 cannot be announced into the DFZ and thus it will never
ever be routable.

Site-locals imply that networks will choose 'easy to remember' addresses
and thus will cause dupes. And they won't be globally unique.

> Or to ask it a different way, (and maybe this is the 
> solution) will all of the 10.x.x.x (and the other IPv4
> private addresses) suddenly become globally broadcast?

Please define 'global broadcast'

> 
> This is a bigger problem. What will an IPv6 application or 
> hardware do with a ::10.x.x.x address?

>From a NetBSD's netstat -rn output (trimmed a bit):

Internet6:
Destination       Gateway Flags Refs  Use    Mtu  Interface
::/104            ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0 =>
::/96             ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0 =>
::127.0.0.0/104   ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0
::224.0.0.0/100   ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0
::255.0.0.0/104   ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0
::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0
2002::/24         ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0
2002:7f00::/24    ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0
2002:e000::/20    ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0
2002:ff00::/24    ::1     UGRS    0     0  33220  lo0

In other words: nullroute those 'special' blocks.
Same goes for RFC1918 space btw.

Afaik there is no BCP about this though.

Greets,
 Jeroen


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