Dear Aly Ramzan,
I never asked you to look up in the license. I am sharing my personal
knowledge as to the practice in distinguishing between EIS and DNOP.
Regards,
Saif Rahman
Chief Executive
eWorld (Pvt) Ltd.
506 Progressive Plaza,
Beaumont Rd., Civil Lines,
Karachi 75530
111-246-246/voice
92-21-5219318/fax
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Saif-Ur-Rahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "A.R. Nasir Qureshi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 28 June, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> Dear Mr. Saif Rahman,
>
> I have failed to locate this restriction in CubeXS license. Can you please
> email back with some more information on where this is mentioned in the
> license.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aly Ramzan
> CubeXS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "saif rahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
>
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > If you provide connectivity thru a serial interface then you are
required
> to
> > have a DNOP license. This is one distinction b/w the EIS and the DNOP
> > license.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Saif Rahman
> > Chief Executive
> > eWorld (Pvt) Ltd.
> > 506 Progressive Plaza,
> > Beaumont Rd., Civil Lines,
> > Karachi 75530
> > 111-246-246/voice
> > 92-21-5219318/fax
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: 27 June, 2001 8:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > The similar case was discussed and was decided in PTA. The case was
> IBM
> > > > ( Mr.Sana Zaidi) As DNOP provided bandwidth to Lahore Chamber but
PTA
> > on
> > > > complaint of PTCL ordered to disconnect this circuit . PTA was
> in-view
> > that
> > > > only PTCL can provide bandwidth, at that time we got approval from
PTA
> > that
> > > > DNOP can provides bandwidth to ISP and ISP can not provide bandwidth
> to
> > any
> > > > one.
> > >
> > > PTCL does not want us to do any thing. Any we do is illegal to them.
> > >
> > > We worked to agree PTA that DNOP can sell, so now we should fight to
say
> > > that ISP can also.
> > >
> > > > Again PTCL charged that DNOP will pay US$47000/- for 2MB to sale
> > bandwidth,
> > > > Now again we won this battle and rates for DNOP and ISP declared
same.
> > SITA
> > > > is paying US$.47000/- 2MB still. Where you live.
> > >
> > > So we will win again, Inshallah. But first we will have to put up a
> case.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Nasir.
> > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Bhutta,
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:40 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am amazed to hear that, PTCL refused to provide a service to
you.
> > PTA is
> > > > > the regulator not PTCL. We should take up this matter with PTA
> > > > > immediatelly.
> > > > >
> > > > > We got our license to sell Internet, and DXX is one way of
providing
> > > > > Internet to customers, who require 24 hours service.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would request Bhutta sahib, to take up this matter immediately
> with
> > PTA,
> > > > > so you can provide service to your customer, and we can, to our
> future
> > > > > customers.
> > > > >
> > > > > I fail to understand why only having the license is not enough,
and
> we
> > > > > have to provide letters from PTA for everyting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nasir.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Aly Ramzan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nasir Bhai I wish you were right. Recently we tried to get a DXX
> > circuit
> > > > > > within Karachi for a corporate client and were refused by PTCL
as
> > they
> > > > > > interpret our license differently. This reply we got after we
> > applied
> > > > > > officially through ISPAK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So if someone has any proof or letter from PTA then we can
proceed
> > > > further
> > > > > > with PTCL otherwise the client gets connected through Radio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please advice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aly Ramzan
> > > > > > CubeXS
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Cc: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:15 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Aly Ramzan wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think Ateeq Bhai's idea has merit. He is talking about
> > providing
> > > > > > circuits
> > > > > > > > to companies within City without incurring unnecessary
expense
> > of
> > > > paying
> > > > > > > > extra 500,000. When there is a province or nationwide need
the
> > > > license
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > always we upgraded.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What circuits are you talking about ?? Data connectivity
between
> > > > offices,
> > > > > > > or Internet circuits. Because within city, most companies
> purchase
> > > > radios,
> > > > > > > and will not get a service for that, and regarding Internet
> > Circuits,
> > > > I do
> > > > > > > not beleive that EIS cannot provide Internet to any one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think it is a great idea and should be approved and
> > implemented
> > > > right
> > > > > > > > away. Otherwise ISP's will just be limited to selling dialup
> > > > accounts,
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > really is not a good business model.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aly Ramzan
> > > > > > > > CubeXS
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > To: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:43 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > DNOP provides service of Data Communication between
> customers.
> > The
> > > > big
> > > > > > > > > business is between customers of different cities, because
> > people
> > > > in
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > city can use several other things like Radio etc.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So DNOP for one city only, or even a province does not
makes
> > sense
> > > > to
> > > > > > me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nasir.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Ateeq.M.Khan wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Bhutta Sahib
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why not amend the schedule of fees for DNOP on the basis
> of
> > > > > > National,
> > > > > > > > Provincial and City wise level ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Like :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nation wide : Rs 1,000,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > > Province wide : Rs 600,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > > Big City wide : Rs 500,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think it is logical to divide DNOP also because if you
> > > > providing
> > > > > > > > service only in a big city then why would you like to pay
> extra
> > fees
> > > > to
> > > > > > PTA
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > > Please give your feed back. It is high time we get as
much
> > > > benefit
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > possible.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ateeq Khan
> > > > > > > > > > CEO
> > > > > > > > > > Gem Net
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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