Saif Sahib,
Do you have any reference in ITU, PTA, PTCL or GOP publications /
standards, about this serial connectivity ?? Can you pls provide them to
me ??
What would you consider a modem, ISDN PRI Interface, or ISDN BRI Interface
??? Serial or not ????
Regards,
Nasir.
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, saif rahman wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> If you provide connectivity thru a serial interface then you are required to
> have a DNOP license. This is one distinction b/w the EIS and the DNOP
> license.
>
> Regards,
>
> Saif Rahman
> Chief Executive
> eWorld (Pvt) Ltd.
> 506 Progressive Plaza,
> Beaumont Rd., Civil Lines,
> Karachi 75530
> 111-246-246/voice
> 92-21-5219318/fax
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 27 June, 2001 8:16 PM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
>
>
> >
> > > The similar case was discussed and was decided in PTA. The case was IBM
> > > ( Mr.Sana Zaidi) As DNOP provided bandwidth to Lahore Chamber but PTA
> on
> > > complaint of PTCL ordered to disconnect this circuit . PTA was in-view
> that
> > > only PTCL can provide bandwidth, at that time we got approval from PTA
> that
> > > DNOP can provides bandwidth to ISP and ISP can not provide bandwidth to
> any
> > > one.
> >
> > PTCL does not want us to do any thing. Any we do is illegal to them.
> >
> > We worked to agree PTA that DNOP can sell, so now we should fight to say
> > that ISP can also.
> >
> > > Again PTCL charged that DNOP will pay US$47000/- for 2MB to sale
> bandwidth,
> > > Now again we won this battle and rates for DNOP and ISP declared same.
> SITA
> > > is paying US$.47000/- 2MB still. Where you live.
> >
> > So we will win again, Inshallah. But first we will have to put up a case.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Nasir.
> >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Bhutta,
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I am amazed to hear that, PTCL refused to provide a service to you.
> PTA is
> > > > the regulator not PTCL. We should take up this matter with PTA
> > > > immediatelly.
> > > >
> > > > We got our license to sell Internet, and DXX is one way of providing
> > > > Internet to customers, who require 24 hours service.
> > > >
> > > > I would request Bhutta sahib, to take up this matter immediately with
> PTA,
> > > > so you can provide service to your customer, and we can, to our future
> > > > customers.
> > > >
> > > > I fail to understand why only having the license is not enough, and we
> > > > have to provide letters from PTA for everyting.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Nasir.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Aly Ramzan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nasir Bhai I wish you were right. Recently we tried to get a DXX
> circuit
> > > > > within Karachi for a corporate client and were refused by PTCL as
> they
> > > > > interpret our license differently. This reply we got after we
> applied
> > > > > officially through ISPAK.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if someone has any proof or letter from PTA then we can proceed
> > > further
> > > > > with PTCL otherwise the client gets connected through Radio.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please advice.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Aly Ramzan
> > > > > CubeXS
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Cc: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:15 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Aly Ramzan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think Ateeq Bhai's idea has merit. He is talking about
> providing
> > > > > circuits
> > > > > > > to companies within City without incurring unnecessary expense
> of
> > > paying
> > > > > > > extra 500,000. When there is a province or nationwide need the
> > > license
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > always we upgraded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What circuits are you talking about ?? Data connectivity between
> > > offices,
> > > > > > or Internet circuits. Because within city, most companies purchase
> > > radios,
> > > > > > and will not get a service for that, and regarding Internet
> Circuits,
> > > I do
> > > > > > not beleive that EIS cannot provide Internet to any one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think it is a great idea and should be approved and
> implemented
> > > right
> > > > > > > away. Otherwise ISP's will just be limited to selling dialup
> > > accounts,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > really is not a good business model.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aly Ramzan
> > > > > > > CubeXS
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:43 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > DNOP provides service of Data Communication between customers.
> The
> > > big
> > > > > > > > business is between customers of different cities, because
> people
> > > in
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > city can use several other things like Radio etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So DNOP for one city only, or even a province does not makes
> sense
> > > to
> > > > > me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nasir.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Ateeq.M.Khan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bhutta Sahib
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why not amend the schedule of fees for DNOP on the basis of
> > > > > National,
> > > > > > > Provincial and City wise level ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Like :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nation wide : Rs 1,000,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > Province wide : Rs 600,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > Big City wide : Rs 500,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think it is logical to divide DNOP also because if you
> > > providing
> > > > > > > service only in a big city then why would you like to pay extra
> fees
> > > to
> > > > > PTA
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > Please give your feed back. It is high time we get as much
> > > benefit
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > possible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ateeq Khan
> > > > > > > > > CEO
> > > > > > > > > Gem Net
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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