mattcasters commented on issue #8321:
URL: https://github.com/apache/hop/issues/8321#issuecomment-5655659180

   15 years sounds wrong but it could be true. This project is 25 years old 
after all. Again, I'm not against changing things. I'm just explaining the 
requirements. It's highly unlikely I'm going to change my opinion on these 
either.  
   To be honest, I really don't have a high opinion of the classical way that 
text is dumped into Logstash/Kafka/... and their variants to  some 
Elastic/OpenSearch server completely disconnected from our data engineers.  
   
   I was hoping OpenTelemetry could help out. Have a friend at Collibra, joined 
an OT evening in Brussels last month at the Collibra offices. But even that 
seems mostly geared towards sending data to OT and less about reading it back 
out.  I haven't given up on OT though.  
   
   Anyway, by all means, if you think that Apache Log4j is the answer, it's 
worth having a debate about it. It feels like an aweful lot of work that 
requires quite a bit of extra testing, compatiibility, making sure plugins 
don't break, and so on. I'm conflicted about simply accepting this into the 
codebase with 10 lines of explanation in this issue and not even a single unit 
or integration test. I do hope you understand.
   
   


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