rmannibucau commented on issue #8321:
URL: https://github.com/apache/hop/issues/8321#issuecomment-5656121302

   > 15 years sounds wrong but it could be true
   
   started to work (and java) in 2010 and it was already the case ;). that said 
the point is just it is mature (didnt mean anything else).
   otel is great when you do nothing crazy but it is lost as soon as you do 
something async so I wouldn't rely on pure automatic instrumentation on the 
long run - short term it is an insanely great move forward.
   sadly we can't rely on ebpf or alike for some internals/steps so fear 
instrumentation will need to be manual, logger based or not.
   
   @hansva 
   
   1. ack, i'm fine if we do target next minor instead of patch release
   2. and 3. will look
   4. think it is ok since row is insanely slower so this is negligible, also 
note it depends a lot on the binding and config, log4j2 is the consistent one 
with the stack and most powerful but not the fastest
   5. exactly but this one is a goal too ;), let the deployer/packager decide
   
   > and we are not gaining much. The things you need can be done by rewriting 
the Slf4jLoggingEventListener and adding MDC in there.
   
   hmm not really until i enable to disable the appender which can be another 
option but keeps 2 competing coding pattern which is very error prone


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