Hi,

> Now is the question, do we want them to take a small step into
> Jallib ? or do we want them to take the step which brings them 'all'
> of the knowledge!


Probably both :)


>
> First case: an EZ library with parameters predefined. Main focus will
> be on including the files you'll need, and not (as Bert did) including
> all of the files you could "EVER" need.
> Second case: no EZ libraries, all in plain JAL programming, with a
> good explanation of all new/unknown steps that are taken.
>
> For both cased the programs from the book should be reproduced.
>

That's the problem: you can't. Because of legal, IP restriction issues.
That's at least what I understand.
We thus need to build our own examples, that's what I'm kind of trying to do
with jalliblog and "step-by-step" posts.


>
> You can see that in the second case, the learning curve is a whole lot
> steeper.


Sure, and I understand/agree this is a problem.


>
> I really want to help with this guide/tutorial/... but I'm affraid
> that you guys know a bit too much :-) I could use some introduction
> sessing to Jall. I really don't know yet what happens under the hood.


Nobody really knows, except Guru Kyle :)
This makes me remember someone talked about jalv2 courses he gave to
students. He has a website with all his lessons. Searching jallist may help
here.


>
> I could provide you with the original programs from the book (off
> coarse not publicly visible) and do the easy jobs. I could try to
> reproduce explanation in my own words (as a starter).
>

But if they can't be publicly visible, what's the point ?


> PS: some thing I'm working on now --> the conversion of a forum into a
> project log :-)
> Joep will know what this is all about:
> http://phalox.be/flux/viewtopic.php?id=1
> :-D <http://phalox.be/flux/viewtopic.php?id=1%0A:-D>


Looks nice. I was looking for a FTDI breakout, the link you give looks nice,
but in Deutsch. Too bad, I can't even know where to click :)

Other sites I had a look gives a "already built" FTDI breakout board, for
14$ (Sparkfun), or 12EUR (eBay). Kind of too much for this...

Seb
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