First try to get a PCB layout gives way too much vias. This is where I
spend days to get a decent PCB...


Seb

2009/7/21 funlw65 <[email protected]>:
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>
>
> On Jul 21, 7:49 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> I think this assumes the peripheral on the other side (eg. a PC) understands
>> RS232 level between 0 and 5V, instead of -12V and +12V. It's sometime the
>> case, and to be sure, using a MAX232 chip is better. That said, with the
>> "plug your own serial module" option, you can choose whatever you want. This
>> gives a fourth option, a the cheap side, so we new have:
>>
>>   - FTDI chip based USB-to-serial adaptor
>>   - 18F14K50 based USB-to-serial adaptor
>>   - MAX232 based, with DB9 connector
>>   - resistor based, with DB9 connector
>>   - (and last option: "my own way to deal with serial")
>
> Ok, not on board, but I thought they can be disabled by jumpers, and
> can be a fast solution to test the software but yes, is not a good
> ideea.
>
>> Some more thoughts about the board. Original Arduino Diecimila uses a
>> Atmega168, a 28-pins chip.
>> See:http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardDiecimila. From this, 20 pins
>> are "exported" through connectors on sides, where 2 pin are dedicated to
>> RX/TX, thus involved in board's functionality (I mean there aren't
>> completely free, as they are involved in serial).
>
> I don't know, maybe others have more ideas. First, I looked at
> ATmega168 pins, to see some similarities at ports level but I think
> the key is at software level. And is the only level where Pinguino
> offers Arduino compatibility (and maybe the reason why the author
> didn't offered a shielded variant).
> For "reusing" Arduino shields, I think a study must be done. Studying
> different shields with their software to see how interact with the
> board. In what manner are used digital pins, etc. ... Because I don't
> think they take in account very much the particularities of the chip
> himself (I think the software is hiding the hardware).
> Maybe is too much work but a shielded board is a must, even if not
> Arduino compatible. This is jallib team decision, and I hope a good
> board will increase the number of programmers using jal language
> (unfortunately, the fact that jal don't have a math library is another
> obstacle regarding to "mass" adoption - the new comers  remain with
> basic languages and advanced people go to C language).
>
>
> >
>



-- 
Sébastien Lelong
http://www.sirloon.net
http://sirbot.org

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