I'm trying to make a serial version of Jaluino CELL, featuring other
microcontrollers as 18F25k22 but long pads are killing me...

On Nov 4, 3:37 am, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote:
> The 3 empty boards look like a structural thing. PCB is cheap and
> tough
>
> Matt.
>
> On Nov 3, 4:48 pm, Joep Suijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > What is the point of having 3 almost empty board and a cell?
>
> > Joep
>
> > 2010/11/3 funlw65(Vasi) <[email protected]>:
>
> > > Here:
> > >http://jpmandon.blogspot.com/2010/11/partybot.html
> > > is an example of how to use Jaluino CELL in a real application.
> > > Warning, this is not for our PCB guru :) .
>
> > > Vasi
>
> > > On Nov 3, 12:05 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >> I think you need to cut caps' wires ends after soldering :)
>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Seb
>
> > >> 2010/11/3 funlw65(Vasi) <[email protected]>
>
> > >> > This is how it looks underside:
> > >> >http://picasaweb.google.com/funlw65/20100513#5535259872597475378
>
> > >> > On Nov 2, 5:56 pm, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > > The actual parts are cheaper in SMD as well.
>
> > >> > > Matt.
>
> > >> > > On Nov 2, 5:27 am, Oliver Seitz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > SMD versions would be cheaper to manufacturer.
>
> > >> > > > That's true. I've once asked my PCB assembling company, and they 
> > >> > > > told
> > >> > me how PCBs are populated:
>
> > >> > > > 1. solder paste is applied to the top side for SMDs using a stencil
> > >> > > > 2. top-side SMDs are placed in the paste
> > >> > > > 3. top-side SMDs are soldered (infrared, hot-air or the like)
> > >> > > > 4. bottom-side SMDs are glued in place without solder paste
> > >> > > > 5. the glue is dried. This takes its time and therefore costs money
> > >> > > > 6. top-side THTs are placed
> > >> > > > 7. top-side THTs and bottom-side SMDs are soldered (possibly 
> > >> > > > selective,
> > >> > wave soldering or the like)
> > >> > > > 8. bottom-side THTs are placed and soldered by hand. That's 
> > >> > > > expensive,
> > >> > of course.
>
> > >> > > > So, cheapest is SMD with parts on one side only. Next is THT only. 
> > >> > > > Then
> > >> > come mixed SMD and THT with all parts on one side. Then SMD on both 
> > >> > sides
> > >> > plus THT on top side only. The most expensive are PCBs with SMD and 
> > >> > THT,
> > >> > both on both sides.
>
> > >> > > > I'm not sure where to put "SMDs on both sides, no THTs" as it could
> > >> > well be that no glue is necessary then.
>
> > >> > > > All of this only applies to automatically populated PCBs in 
> > >> > > > perhaps 100
> > >> > pieces or more. For low quantities, THT might even be cheaper as no
> > >> > solder-paste stencil has to be made.
>
> > >> > > > Greets,
> > >> > > > Kiste
>
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