I don't know who will produce these boards but both Jaluino CELL boards needs little adjustments for production: all silk screen elements which enter in "Stop" areas must be removed and this mean component editing. I hate Eagle. Is so easy on DipTrace!
-- Vasi On Nov 4, 11:13 am, "funlw65(Vasi)" <[email protected]> wrote: > Then, let the debates begin :D . > > -- > Vasi > > On Nov 4, 10:39 am, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > It looks serial connector matches new Jaluino v2.0 pinout (FTDI cable), > > great ! :) > > If you're in the mood of creating PCBs, what about a Jaluino Bee: > > > - xbee compatible socket: you choose which comm. board (bee) you want to > > use (XBee, Bluetooth-Bee, USB-Bee, home-made hope-RF-bee, ...) > > - *-bee board could be plugged below so pin headers from 18fxxxx would be > > accessible > > - or, *-bee board could be plugged above, so JaluinoBee could be plugged > > on a breadboard > > > I don't have any xbee board or the like, but it seems it becomes more on > > more popular, some *uino even provide a bee socket as part of the main board > > (look at Seeeduino Stalker). As you say, having a widely used standard > > socket like this is quite interesting. > > > Bee socket provides many pins, I understand only few are needed for minimal > > setup: power, DIN, DOUT (tx/rx). Maybe also CTS/ for reset system. I'm not > > sure about all the functionality of other pins, but for instance one is a > > PWM output proportional to signal strength. There sure will be debates about > > which pin should be kept and which shouldn't... > > > Cheers > > Seb > > > 2010/11/4 funlw65(Vasi) <[email protected]> > > > > Done. Jaluino CELL Serial - Reset on RTS; CTS and Handshake not > > > implemented (no space). > > >http://picasaweb.google.com/funlw65/20100513#5535603617251461586 > > > > Here is the archive: > > > >https://sites.google.com/site/funlw65/file-archive/JaluinoCELLSerial.... > > > > It needs careful verification. I did it but is not enough. > > > > -- > > > Vasi > > > > On Nov 4, 8:21 am, "funlw65(Vasi)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm trying to make a serial version of Jaluino CELL, featuring other > > > > microcontrollers as 18F25k22 but long pads are killing me... > > > > > On Nov 4, 3:37 am, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The 3 empty boards look like a structural thing. PCB is cheap and > > > > > tough > > > > > > Matt. > > > > > > On Nov 3, 4:48 pm, Joep Suijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > What is the point of having 3 almost empty board and a cell? > > > > > > > Joep > > > > > > > 2010/11/3 funlw65(Vasi) <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > Here: > > > > > > >http://jpmandon.blogspot.com/2010/11/partybot.html > > > > > > > is an example of how to use Jaluino CELL in a real application. > > > > > > > Warning, this is not for our PCB guru :) . > > > > > > > > Vasi > > > > > > > > On Nov 3, 12:05 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> I think you need to cut caps' wires ends after soldering :) > > > > > > > >> Cheers, > > > > > > >> Seb > > > > > > > >> 2010/11/3 funlw65(Vasi) <[email protected]> > > > > > > > >> > This is how it looks underside: > > > > > > >> >http://picasaweb.google.com/funlw65/20100513#5535259872597475378 > > > > > > > >> > On Nov 2, 5:56 pm, mattschinkel <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > The actual parts are cheaper in SMD as well. > > > > > > > >> > > Matt. > > > > > > > >> > > On Nov 2, 5:27 am, Oliver Seitz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > SMD versions would be cheaper to manufacturer. > > > > > > > >> > > > That's true. I've once asked my PCB assembling company, and > > > they told > > > > > > >> > me how PCBs are populated: > > > > > > > >> > > > 1. solder paste is applied to the top side for SMDs using a > > > stencil > > > > > > >> > > > 2. top-side SMDs are placed in the paste > > > > > > >> > > > 3. top-side SMDs are soldered (infrared, hot-air or the > > > like) > > > > > > >> > > > 4. bottom-side SMDs are glued in place without solder paste > > > > > > >> > > > 5. the glue is dried. This takes its time and therefore > > > costs money > > > > > > >> > > > 6. top-side THTs are placed > > > > > > >> > > > 7. top-side THTs and bottom-side SMDs are soldered > > > > > > >> > > > (possibly > > > selective, > > > > > > >> > wave soldering or the like) > > > > > > >> > > > 8. bottom-side THTs are placed and soldered by hand. That's > > > expensive, > > > > > > >> > of course. > > > > > > > >> > > > So, cheapest is SMD with parts on one side only. Next is > > > > > > >> > > > THT > > > only. Then > > > > > > >> > come mixed SMD and THT with all parts on one side. Then SMD on > > > both sides > > > > > > >> > plus THT on top side only. The most expensive are PCBs with SMD > > > and THT, > > > > > > >> > both on both sides. > > > > > > > >> > > > I'm not sure where to put "SMDs on both sides, no THTs" as > > > it could > > > > > > >> > well be that no glue is necessary then. > > > > > > > >> > > > All of this only applies to automatically populated PCBs in > > > perhaps 100 > > > > > > >> > pieces or more. For low quantities, THT might even be cheaper > > > > > > >> > as > > > no > > > > > > >> > solder-paste stencil has to be made. > > > > > > > >> > > > Greets, > > > > > > >> > > > Kiste > > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > Google Groups > > > > > > >> > "jallib" group. > > > > > > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > >> > [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> > > > <jallib%[email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> > > > > > > > >> > . > > > > > > >> > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > >> Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "jallib" group. > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> > > > . > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "jallib" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. > > > -- > > Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. 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