Hi William,

Which one?
1. http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9716
2. http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9115

On Nov 7, 5:22 pm, William <[email protected]> wrote:
> Very nice!
>
> Next, may I suggest you do an open-source Eagle design for a FTDI
> serial adapter that matches?  With mini usb connector.
>
> I hate paying $15 for these adapters, when there is perhaps $5 of
> parts.
>
> William
>
> ps:  seems like with silkscreens, you just have to expect to copy all
> silk to a new layer and start editing by hand...
>
> On Nov 4, 2:15 am, "funlw65(Vasi)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Done. Jaluino CELL Serial - Reset on RTS; CTS and Handshake not
> > implemented (no 
> > space).http://picasaweb.google.com/funlw65/20100513#5535603617251461586
>
> > Here is the 
> > archive:https://sites.google.com/site/funlw65/file-archive/JaluinoCELLSerial....
>
> > It needs careful verification. I did it but is not enough.
>
> > --
> > Vasi
>
> > On Nov 4, 8:21 am, "funlw65(Vasi)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm trying to make a serial version of Jaluino CELL, featuring other
> > > microcontrollers as 18F25k22 but long pads are killing me...
>
> > > On Nov 4, 3:37 am, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > The 3 empty boards look like a structural thing. PCB is cheap and
> > > > tough
>
> > > > Matt.
>
> > > > On Nov 3, 4:48 pm, Joep Suijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > What is the point of having 3 almost empty board and a cell?
>
> > > > > Joep
>
> > > > > 2010/11/3 funlw65(Vasi) <[email protected]>:
>
> > > > > > Here:
> > > > > >http://jpmandon.blogspot.com/2010/11/partybot.html
> > > > > > is an example of how to use Jaluino CELL in a real application.
> > > > > > Warning, this is not for our PCB guru :) .
>
> > > > > > Vasi
>
> > > > > > On Nov 3, 12:05 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> I think you need to cut caps' wires ends after soldering :)
>
> > > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > > >> Seb
>
> > > > > >> 2010/11/3 funlw65(Vasi) <[email protected]>
>
> > > > > >> > This is how it looks underside:
> > > > > >> >http://picasaweb.google.com/funlw65/20100513#5535259872597475378
>
> > > > > >> > On Nov 2, 5:56 pm, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > The actual parts are cheaper in SMD as well.
>
> > > > > >> > > Matt.
>
> > > > > >> > > On Nov 2, 5:27 am, Oliver Seitz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > > > SMD versions would be cheaper to manufacturer.
>
> > > > > >> > > > That's true. I've once asked my PCB assembling company, and 
> > > > > >> > > > they told
> > > > > >> > me how PCBs are populated:
>
> > > > > >> > > > 1. solder paste is applied to the top side for SMDs using a 
> > > > > >> > > > stencil
> > > > > >> > > > 2. top-side SMDs are placed in the paste
> > > > > >> > > > 3. top-side SMDs are soldered (infrared, hot-air or the like)
> > > > > >> > > > 4. bottom-side SMDs are glued in place without solder paste
> > > > > >> > > > 5. the glue is dried. This takes its time and therefore 
> > > > > >> > > > costs money
> > > > > >> > > > 6. top-side THTs are placed
> > > > > >> > > > 7. top-side THTs and bottom-side SMDs are soldered (possibly 
> > > > > >> > > > selective,
> > > > > >> > wave soldering or the like)
> > > > > >> > > > 8. bottom-side THTs are placed and soldered by hand. That's 
> > > > > >> > > > expensive,
> > > > > >> > of course.
>
> > > > > >> > > > So, cheapest is SMD with parts on one side only. Next is THT 
> > > > > >> > > > only. Then
> > > > > >> > come mixed SMD and THT with all parts on one side. Then SMD on 
> > > > > >> > both sides
> > > > > >> > plus THT on top side only. The most expensive are PCBs with SMD 
> > > > > >> > and THT,
> > > > > >> > both on both sides.
>
> > > > > >> > > > I'm not sure where to put "SMDs on both sides, no THTs" as 
> > > > > >> > > > it could
> > > > > >> > well be that no glue is necessary then.
>
> > > > > >> > > > All of this only applies to automatically populated PCBs in 
> > > > > >> > > > perhaps 100
> > > > > >> > pieces or more. For low quantities, THT might even be cheaper as 
> > > > > >> > no
> > > > > >> > solder-paste stencil has to be made.
>
> > > > > >> > > > Greets,
> > > > > >> > > > Kiste
>
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