Hi Rob,

My thanks as well for all of your efforts.

A few things that come to mind that I have given thought to in the past:

* I agree that YouTube videos would help.  So many people are using YouTube 
to get started in things.

* Whenever I start working with a new PIC I'm surprised that the "sample" 
programs are almost all using crystals.  I take the sample program for my 
new PIC and change it to use the internal oscillator.  I think the internal 
oscillator should be the default sample program as it's easier to get going 
and not everyone may have crystals on hand.

* Some of the home page links are confusing.  The "jallib" support link 
does lead here, but the "jallist" support link doesn't go to the Google 
group.  The "jallib" main site link goes to a no longer used Google code 
archive.  These might be confusing to newcomers.  I'm also not sure of the 
difference between the "jallist" and "jallib" groups.

* I'm not sure if it's clear on the home page how to install JAL or how to 
update it when a new "bee" is released.

* One Microchip forum user commented about JAL, earlier in the year:
" There are some things about the JAL language that I don't like. For 
instance, why use "--" for comments rather than the more standard "//" or 
"/* ... */" pair? Well, they are standard in C, C++, and the "//" in 
Delphi. The "--" is used in Ada and several other languages, and there are 
many others:
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comment_(computer_programming)
 
I see that neither Delphi nor JAL are listed in that Wiki page. Maybe they 
should be added. "

* One thing I personally don't like about JAL is the libraries' use of 
lowercase, which I find difficult to read.  There have been a few libraries 
that I have created before they existed in JAL, but have been hesitant to 
contribute them since I don't like conforming to the all lowercase standard.

Just some thoughts.  Don't take them as criticisms, but as honest feedback.

Regards,
Mike

On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:42:38 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for ways to improve the popularity of JAL and I would like to 
> hear your reaction on this topic.
>
> Currently JAL is still maintained, that is new device files are generated 
> when new PICs are released, compiler issues are fixed (if possible) and new 
> libraries are released. In 2020,  libraries where created for the following 
> devices:  nRF24L01+ transceiver, digital potentiometers X9C102, X9C103, 
> X9C104, X9C503, TM1637, SSD1306 graphics display module, nRF905 
> transceiver, Si5351a clock generator and a library for DFPlayer Mini.
>
> I would like to see that more people use JAL and more people would like to 
> contribute. 
>
> Some ideas to get more people interested:
> -) Add more libraries (not sure which though)
> -) Create a multi-platform IDE (Windows, Linux, Mac)
> -) Post Youtube video's about getting started with JAL
> -) Extend the JAL language (not possible by me since fixing compiler bugs 
> is not the same as extending the compiler with new features)
> -) ....
>
> Looking forward to your suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>

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