A beginner should get accustomed to '--' comment as is part of JAL and JAL is not C or other language. Period. The beginner is here to learn JAL, as the C for PIC is commercial (xc8) or not having enough support and producing very bad code (SDCC). And JAL has '--' as a comment among another one.
So, please keep developing JAL as JAL. On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:20 PM Rob CJ <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Again I was too quick. It seems to work (but I remain careful here). > > Kind regards, > > Rob > > ------------------------------ > *Van:* 'Mike' via jallib <[email protected]> > *Verzonden:* donderdag 26 november 2020 22:00 > *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]> > *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] Re: How to improve the popularity of JAL? > > No problem > > Regards, > Mike > > > On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 3:57:09 PM UTC-5 [email protected] > wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > Maybe I was too soon with my response. The '--' cannot be compared with > '//' since a construction like a / b would no longer work. It would require > more work than a single fix. > > Sorry for making you happy with a dead sparrow (Dutch saying). > > Kind regards, > > Rob > > > > ------------------------------ > *Van:* [email protected] <[email protected]> namens > [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Verzonden:* donderdag 26 november 2020 21:40 > *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]> > *Onderwerp:* [jallib] Re: How to improve the popularity of JAL? > > Hi Mike, > > I thought that since the compiler handles '--' as comment it might as well > be modified easily to also accept '//' as comment so I added the '//' as > test to the compiler and that seems to work. The only disadvantage is that > the syntax highlighting with JALEdit and JALIDE does not change since it > does not recognize it as comments but it will still syntax highlighting the > keywords. > > So this now passes the modified version of the compiler: > > // My forever loop > forever loop > led = ON > _usec_delay(100_000) // Comment > led = OFF > _usec_delay(400_000) > end loop > > In the above example the keyword 'forever' is syntax highlighted in the > forever loop as well in the text 'My forever loop' so that is a bit > confusing. I do not think that JALEdit will be changed but I do think that > it could be fixed in JALIDE since Despx has been working on that. > > So with this change the compiler would accept ';' '--' and '//' for > comment. Not sure what other think of this change. The request to have > multiple comment lines using /* ... */ is not easy to fix. > > If others think this is a welcomed change I can implement it in a final > release of the compiler. > > Kind regards, > > Rob > > > Op maandag 23 november 2020 om 22:26:15 UTC+1 schreef Mike: > > Hi Rob, > > My thanks as well for all of your efforts. > > A few things that come to mind that I have given thought to in the past: > > * I agree that YouTube videos would help. So many people are using > YouTube to get started in things. > > * Whenever I start working with a new PIC I'm surprised that the "sample" > programs are almost all using crystals. I take the sample program for my > new PIC and change it to use the internal oscillator. I think the internal > oscillator should be the default sample program as it's easier to get going > and not everyone may have crystals on hand. > > * Some of the home page links are confusing. The "jallib" support link > does lead here, but the "jallist" support link doesn't go to the Google > group. The "jallib" main site link goes to a no longer used Google code > archive. These might be confusing to newcomers. I'm also not sure of > the difference between the "jallist" and "jallib" groups. > > * I'm not sure if it's clear on the home page how to install JAL or how to > update it when a new "bee" is released. > > * One Microchip forum user commented about JAL, earlier in the year: > " There are some things about the JAL language that I don't like. For > instance, why use "--" for comments rather than the more standard "//" or > "/* ... */" pair? Well, they are standard in C, C++, and the "//" in > Delphi. The "--" is used in Ada and several other languages, and there are > many others: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comment_(computer_programming) > > I see that neither Delphi nor JAL are listed in that Wiki page. Maybe they > should be added. " > > * One thing I personally don't like about JAL is the libraries' use of > lowercase, which I find difficult to read. There have been a few libraries > that I have created before they existed in JAL, but have been hesitant to > contribute them since I don't like conforming to the all lowercase standard. > > Just some thoughts. Don't take them as criticisms, but as honest feedback. > > Regards, > Mike > > On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:42:38 PM UTC-5 [email protected] > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am looking for ways to improve the popularity of JAL and I would like to > hear your reaction on this topic. > > Currently JAL is still maintained, that is new device files are generated > when new PICs are released, compiler issues are fixed (if possible) and new > libraries are released. In 2020, libraries where created for the following > devices: nRF24L01+ transceiver, digital potentiometers X9C102, X9C103, > X9C104, X9C503, TM1637, SSD1306 graphics display module, nRF905 > transceiver, Si5351a clock generator and a library for DFPlayer Mini. > > I would like to see that more people use JAL and more people would like to > contribute. > > Some ideas to get more people interested: > -) Add more libraries (not sure which though) > -) Create a multi-platform IDE (Windows, Linux, Mac) > -) Post Youtube video's about getting started with JAL > -) Extend the JAL language (not possible by me since fixing compiler bugs > is not the same as extending the compiler with new features) > -) .... > > Looking forward to your suggestions. > > Thanks > > Kind regards, > > Rob > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "jallib" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jallib/a567d3e4-95fb-4fec-b549-6af25281ec92n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jallib/a567d3e4-95fb-4fec-b549-6af25281ec92n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "jallib" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jallib/b6e6cc81-3fda-481e-a931-cd5cec340107n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jallib/b6e6cc81-3fda-481e-a931-cd5cec340107n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "jallib" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jallib/VI1PR07MB62563EFD68D17FBF74EF1FA6E6F90%40VI1PR07MB6256.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jallib/VI1PR07MB62563EFD68D17FBF74EF1FA6E6F90%40VI1PR07MB6256.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Vasi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. 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