No problem

Regards,
Mike


On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 3:57:09 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Maybe I was too soon with my response. The '--' cannot be compared with 
> '//' since a construction like a / b would no longer work. It would require 
> more work than a single fix.
>
> Sorry for making you happy with a dead sparrow (Dutch saying).
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
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> *Van:* [email protected] <[email protected]> namens 
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 26 november 2020 21:40
> *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]>
> *Onderwerp:* [jallib] Re: How to improve the popularity of JAL? 
>  
> Hi Mike, 
>
> I thought that since the compiler handles '--' as comment it might as well 
> be modified easily to also accept '//' as comment so I added the '//' as 
> test to the compiler and that seems to work. The only disadvantage is that 
> the syntax highlighting with JALEdit and JALIDE does not change since it 
> does not recognize it as comments but it will still syntax highlighting the 
> keywords.
>
> So  this now passes the modified version of the compiler:
>
> // My forever loop
> forever loop
>    led = ON
>    _usec_delay(100_000)  // Comment
>    led = OFF
>    _usec_delay(400_000) 
> end loop
>
> In the above example the keyword 'forever' is syntax highlighted in the 
> forever loop as well in the text 'My forever loop' so that is a bit 
> confusing. I do not think that JALEdit will be changed but I do think that 
> it could be fixed in JALIDE since Despx has been working on that. 
>
> So with this change the compiler would accept ';' '--' and '//' for 
> comment. Not sure what other think of this change. The request to have 
> multiple comment lines using /* ... */ is not easy to fix.
>
> If others think this is a welcomed change I can implement it in a final 
> release of the compiler.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
> Op maandag 23 november 2020 om 22:26:15 UTC+1 schreef Mike:
>
> Hi Rob, 
>
> My thanks as well for all of your efforts.
>
> A few things that come to mind that I have given thought to in the past:
>
> * I agree that YouTube videos would help.  So many people are using 
> YouTube to get started in things.
>
> * Whenever I start working with a new PIC I'm surprised that the "sample" 
> programs are almost all using crystals.  I take the sample program for my 
> new PIC and change it to use the internal oscillator.  I think the internal 
> oscillator should be the default sample program as it's easier to get going 
> and not everyone may have crystals on hand.
>
> * Some of the home page links are confusing.  The "jallib" support link 
> does lead here, but the "jallist" support link doesn't go to the Google 
> group.  The "jallib" main site link goes to a no longer used Google code 
> archive.  These might be confusing to newcomers.  I'm also not sure of 
> the difference between the "jallist" and "jallib" groups.
>
> * I'm not sure if it's clear on the home page how to install JAL or how to 
> update it when a new "bee" is released.
>
> * One Microchip forum user commented about JAL, earlier in the year:
> " There are some things about the JAL language that I don't like. For 
> instance, why use "--" for comments rather than the more standard "//" or 
> "/* ... */" pair? Well, they are standard in C, C++, and the "//" in 
> Delphi. The "--" is used in Ada and several other languages, and there are 
> many others:
>  
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comment_(computer_programming)
>  
> I see that neither Delphi nor JAL are listed in that Wiki page. Maybe they 
> should be added. "
>
> * One thing I personally don't like about JAL is the libraries' use of 
> lowercase, which I find difficult to read.  There have been a few libraries 
> that I have created before they existed in JAL, but have been hesitant to 
> contribute them since I don't like conforming to the all lowercase standard.
>
> Just some thoughts.  Don't take them as criticisms, but as honest feedback.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:42:38 PM UTC-5 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I am looking for ways to improve the popularity of JAL and I would like to 
> hear your reaction on this topic.
>
> Currently JAL is still maintained, that is new device files are generated 
> when new PICs are released, compiler issues are fixed (if possible) and new 
> libraries are released. In 2020,  libraries where created for the following 
> devices:  nRF24L01+ transceiver, digital potentiometers X9C102, X9C103, 
> X9C104, X9C503, TM1637, SSD1306 graphics display module, nRF905 
> transceiver, Si5351a clock generator and a library for DFPlayer Mini.
>
> I would like to see that more people use JAL and more people would like to 
> contribute. 
>
> Some ideas to get more people interested:
> -) Add more libraries (not sure which though)
> -) Create a multi-platform IDE (Windows, Linux, Mac)
> -) Post Youtube video's about getting started with JAL
> -) Extend the JAL language (not possible by me since fixing compiler bugs 
> is not the same as extending the compiler with new features)
> -) ....
>
> Looking forward to your suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
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