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Hey,

Just for the record, Sun doesn't even use Iplanet to run its own web systems...
So, that ought to tell you a whole lot about iPlanet.  I believe Netscape may also
not be using Iplanet, even though it is the (NETSCAPE=SUN aliance product).

Ben Ricker wrote:

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> >         [Menchaca, Joaquin]  Actually, this has nothing to do with "GUI" vs
> > "CLI" type of arguement.  This is just a cost effectiveness issue.  The more
> > cumbersome it is to configure something, the more time is invested.  Even
> > though JSERV is freeware, the time that takes those not familar with the
> > system is far greater than packages like JRUN and iPlanet.  The the total
> > costs of the commercial package + cost of paying an engineer to
> > configure/administer the system, makes JSERV more expensive than JRUN or
> > iPlanet.
>
> However, it seems unlikely that there would be a $1400 per CPU cost for
> configuring Jserv due to manhours. I knew hardly anything about Unix or
> Apache or Jserv and it tool me about 25 hours to set it up, mostly due
> to trial an error and the hard learned lesson of using the FAQ and this
> list. Now, I can setup a full Apache/Jserv setup from source in less
> than 2 hours. MOst of that time is getting the servlets in the right
> place and form to run. Add to this the $3000 a year for mission critical
> support, and this blows your argument out of the water. We have run
> Apache/Jserv for 3 months straight with NO downtime whatsoever.
>
> Someone earlier pointed out the Achilles Heel of iPlanet: bad load
> balancing. Since it ties the VM to the web server, one cannot load
> balance to the JVMs. If the machine goes down with a memory leak or
> socket death, there goes the whole kit and caboodle. No web serving, no
> Java. Nothing.
>
> Ben Ricker
> Web Administrator
> US-Rx, Inc.
>
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