I'd much perfer that you private porting club become public. Ur hiding behind
the NDA, just makes u appear to be in the marketeering pockets os SUN. This
can be exemplified by the way that the JDK 1.2 release announcement was made
by SUN before any announcements on the normal channels at blackdown. U'r
exclusive sun/java-linux-porting allience, appears to me to be outside of the
linux community ethical standards. I'm sorry but thats how i feel. And the
blackdown java-linux-porting group has done nothing at all to change this, but
has done quite a bit to re-assure me that NOT Joining was the right thing to
do.
Can I presume thet the Death of the Non-Commercial Licensing for the JDK 1.2
was in part because ur private porting group signed a commercial licensing
agreement with sun.? Or maybe you folks dont realize what u did. I Guess its
no different that what the movie "BRAVEHEART" depicted when *some* of the
scotish nobility sold out their country to the king of england.
As for Joining, historically speeking, when the porting efforts was quite
young, I did in fact do a "subscribe java-linux-porting" once. It was reject
by Karl Asha, because I didn't provide a piece of code from the JDK source -
to demonstrate that I had aquired a sun license. Some discussion ensued about
the necessisity of this, and chose not to join. group philosophy was quite
different also then.
offers to Joining only came recently, after many years of doing my porting
without any assistence by your group. Something was up, only later did I find
out that your group aquired/signed the commercial license to port 1.2. I
suppose it was just coincidence, i dont think so I also suppose having my
diffs would make your private porting to the 'alpha' fairly easy ( I say
fairly because I do not know if the JCK is neutral with respect to 32/64bit
issues ).
When I do my alpha ports, I feel that I am doing it for the Alpha Linux
community. I'm just not ready to work for Sun guised as a linux porter.
So How about dropping the Sun commercial license in favor of giving everyone
in the linux community an equal opportunity at porting.
gat
Does anyone know how to contact "/.". I'd like to publish this
BTW, u do know that NON-COMM licenses for 1.2 has stopped?
Thanks for the encouragement to take the next step. I have tried to refrain in
doing so. I dont think this next step is what u expected.
Michael Sinz wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:01:05 -0400, Uncle George wrote:
>
> >1) I am not a member of java-linux-porting@blackdown. They are a private
> > porting club.
>
> You have been invited to be part of the effort. The "private" part
> comes from the fact that we had to sign NDA/Contracts so that we could
> start working on the JDK 1.2/Java 2 code. Before that (JDK 1.1.x) you
> were also invited to join and you had also declined.
>
> You have also declined to post your Alpha DIFFs such that people like
> myself could compile the code for my Alpha CPU optimizations. (And maybe
> link with Motif rather than LessTif)
>
> >2) I have been porting the Javasoft's non-commercial JDK source for a
> > number of years.. But just for for alpha/linux.
>
> Yes, and Alpha owners/users are happy that you have done so.
>
> At this point I would say the next step is up to you. You may join the
> porting group (no cost, just some NDA stuff) and continue to have your
> work be of benefit to all Linux/Alpha users. Or you can post your diffs
> (which is still legal) and let each interested user download the Sun source
> and do their own build (yes, this is non-trivial due to the bootstrap
> requirements, but again, your work would be made available to others)
>
> Maybe someone with a license could even make the compiled port available.
> (Assuming there is someone who has the time and license to do so)
>
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