So how can java3D become open source if there is a ban on distribution to specific countries? Is the move to open source still on? Maybe Sun can answer this one?
Lars PS: Maybe it will be half open source? -----Original Message----- From: Discussion list for Java 3D API [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Wright Sent: zaterdag 12 juni 2004 13:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Source code, licensing, and deployment Lars, I too find it difficult to believe a "ban" could effectively be implemented. It's very easy to burn 4.7 Gig of data on a DVD and transport that... no high tech spy work needed! As with many things the "cure" is often worse than the "problem". Those of us that are legal Java developers suffer needlessly in a pitiful attempt to make it more difficult for the "evil people" to obtain a bit of technology. - John Wright Starfire Research Lars van Gemerden wrote: > So what will happen with this ban when java3D becomes open source? Or might > this be a showstopper? Anyway, what are the chances that this ban will stop > anything from entering a "banned" country? It seems that all an organisation > in a "banned" country needs is a proxyserver in a non-banned country to > circumvent the reverse DNS or other IP-based check. > > Beside the point: I remember that there was a similar ban on the export of > encryption software (actually more complicated, because it depended on > country, type of company to use the software, algorithm, keylength). The > administration became huge. However the algorithms could be exported in book > form ... Some European and Israeli companies cashed in nicely on that. At > some point the ban was dropped. > > Cheers, > > Lars > > PS: these user installation issues were the reason I dropped my last > project. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion list for Java 3D API > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Wright > Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 13:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Source code, licensing, and deployment > > > The problem (as per my last discussion with Sun regarding this) is that > we can not legally allow Java 3D to be downloaded (without being able to > technically guarantee it isn't being downloaded in a "banned" country). > So if you are distributing on CD (and obviously not in a "banned" > country) then it isn't an issue, but for electronic (Internet) > distribution it's a "no go". > > (I believe the same applies for Java itself) > > I get plenty of tech support "problems" from customers that are confused > and struggle to properly download Java and Java 3D. It would be a great > benefit to Java developers if we were legally able to package our > applications to avoid such issues. > > - John Wright > Starfire Research > > Paul Brown wrote: > >> From the Java3D 1.3.1 readme file: >> >>"Sun Microsystems allows vendors to distribute the Java 3D(TM) Runtime >>environment with their Java programs" >> >>So what is the issue with regard to licencing and distribution? >> >>Thanks, >>-Paul >> >> > > =========================================================================== > >>To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the > > body > >>of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". > > > =========================================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body > of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". > > =========================================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body > of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". > =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
