Well, there's a true testament to good design if ever I have seen
one...
On Oct 6, 5:22 pm, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is true. The VM spec really hasn't changed much. Java 7 may bring
> the first new changes in a while. The VM itself has changed
> dramatically, of course, but it's all under the hood optimizations.
> The spec itself was designed to remain unchanged for a long time.
>
> - J
>
> On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Kram wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well thats good news, I guess thats what I needed to know aswell.
>
> > Seeing how the IT world in general has advanced exponentially in the
> > last 8 years, you can understand why we would "expect" the changes in
> > the VM to change dramatically too, which is why buying an 8 year old
> > book initially doesnt seem like a good idea...
>
> > Bod,
> > Yeah I did actually think of that, it would be a perfect way of
> > getting to know the bytecode better. Thanks!
>
> > On Oct 4, 9:51 am, robilad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> The VM spec hasn't changed a whole lot in the past 8 years.
>
> >> On Oct 2, 5:53 pm, "Mark Volkmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> Those books are both at least eight years old. Is there anything
> >>> more
> >>> up-to-date than those?
>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Casper Bang
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>> I don't think you'll find a better intro to the internals than Bill
> >>>> Winners "Inside the
> >>>> JVM":http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Java-Virtual-Machine-Venners/dp/0071350934
> >>>> Either that or "Programming for the JVM":
> >>>>http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Java-TM-Virtual-Machine/dp/02013097
> >>>> ...
>
> >>>> Both are a bit dated, but cover all the basics of instructions,
> >>>> stack
> >>>> frames etc. Some of the stuff are real eye openers, i.e. the
> >>>> difference between a cast and a conversion, and how closely
> >>>> linked the
> >>>> byte code and the (original) Java syntax really is.
>
> >>>> /Casper
>
> >>>> Kram wrote:
> >>>>> Firstly I am relatively new to Java only been developing for 2 - 3
> >>>>> years, which I know isnt a noobie, but not yet seasoned.
>
> >>>>> I really enjoyed the latest episode a lot, Ive listened to it a
> >>>>> few
> >>>>> times now, and I find the lower level parts of the JVM and
> >>>>> bytecode
> >>>>> very interesting.
>
> >>>>> Although I didnt understand all of what was said on the posse
> >>>>> ep, I
> >>>>> would love to start on a educational journey to learn more about
> >>>>> bytecode and the JVM.
>
> >>>>> I was wondering if anyone out there knows of some good, recent
> >>>>> books
> >>>>> that they could recommend?
>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>> Mark
>
> >>> --
> >>> R. Mark Volkmann
> >>> Object Computing, Inc.
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