I enjoyed the interview as well and wasn't as irritated as some about the
IBM/eclipse guys even though I'll probably never use their tools.

One thing to keep in mind with JDeveloper is that if you use JDeveloper to
develop a project that is deployed to a non Oracle application server, you
will have to pay a steep licensing cost if you use some parts of ADF. I
think ADF Faces (or struts or swing ADF things) are ok, but for sure the BC
(business components) and maybe other stuff would require the licensing. ADF
is very complicated (to me anyway) and it confuses me that you can use one
ADF technology for free but not another one. Possibly with the new
JDeveloper 11g (11.1.1.0.0, really) if you start it in the Java EE Edition
Role, you will be safe to deploy to a non-Oracle application server.

I think it's great what Oracle has done with trinidad and toplink.

Lloyd


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:23 PM, kibitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> After mildly bagging ouot the IBM interview, I find I'm quite enjoying
> the Oracle interview (not quite done yet). Maybe it's because I'm
> using the Oracle stuff. Or maybe Ted's a better interviewee -- he
> doesn't come across as so "markety."
>
> I'm not sure I agree that the term "middleware" didn't exist before
> BPEL!! How's about Message Oriented Middleware?
>
> Also, I'm not sure that JDeveloper is completely free of the Oracle
> stack. For general Java use, sure. For the SOA/BPEL stuff, almost
> certainly not.
>
> Thoughts?
> >
>

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