In my customer base (mostly Australian Financial and Govt Java shops)
my perception of Groovy usage compared to other non-Java JVM languages
is that 12 months ago Groovy was sitting around 66% (2/3) usage
compared to 33% (1/3) for everything else.  I think this has probably
increased to over 80% at the moment and is still growing. So, I think
it has been going well.

Disclaimer: I have no hard numbers to back this up and I'll be the
first to admit that it is highly likely that customers with a leaning
towards Groovy and I are probably likely to attract one another.
Others could quite easily see quite different numbers.

Also, I am not saying that there hasn't been huge interest in the
other languages - there has been huge interest as there should be.
It just hasn't reflected in widespread production use yet for the
projects my teams are involved in.

Finally, I am not saying that Groovy is a perfect language.
It has many areas which can still improve significantly on
and hopefully will over the coming releases. Just my 2c.


Paul.


On Jan 6, 10:56 am, Dick Wall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> I wanted to assure people that I love the Groovy, I really do, and I
> like Guillaume, Graeme et al tremendously.
>
> We actually had quite a few news items for Groovy in 2008 (just search
> for groovy or grails in the search box on the javaposse.com site to
> see). However, I feel that there were quite a small number of news
> items to actually report on and this is what I was trying to
> communicate in the episode. It's always good to see big news items
> like "company X is writing its new super-web-app using grails" - and I
> think there was one of those during the year, but it just felt to me
> that not many crossed my news filter, which I like to think is a
> fairly unbiased way of assessing the ebb and flow of the industry (I
> try to keep the feed selection broad and include digg searches and
> other things like that).
>
> I hope that a 1.6 or 2.0 release will get a bit more notice for Groovy
> going again, and I certainly didn't mean to alienate any one. From the
> comment by Vince O'Sullivan on this topic, I am not the only one that
> feels like it might be slipping away. I say these things with love,
> honestly. My perfect future has Scala and Groovy as the modern
> language options on the JVM.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dick
>
> On Jan 5, 3:37 pm, greggobridges <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > 1)The whiteboards at Devoxx (http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/
> > devoxx_2008_whiteboard_votes) declared that groovy was the most
> > popular JVM language that is not Java (37%, compared to 22% for scala
> > and 10% for jruby). It's not scientific, but it's worth something.
> > 2)Groovy had 74,000 downloads in November 2008 (I don't have scala's
> > november numbers, but it comes to less than 3,000 for December 2008).
> > 3)Groovy was recently acquired by SpringSource
> > 4)Take a look at a session list from the 'No Fluff Just Stuff' tour
> > and tell me that Groovy is not gaining momentum.
>
> > The Posse said that there was not much groovy news. The only news that
> > was reported on the podcast was the aforementioned acquisition, as
> > well as the December release of v1.5.1 (reported in January); however,
> > groovy is now at 1.5.7 with a RC for 1.6 available. The eclipse groovy
> > plugin was updated, and netbeans added groovy support in 6.5 (not
> > reported in the news, but by Tor as an aside in the Holiday podcast).
>
> > As a Groovy user, in 2008 I felt like the Scala Posse's redheaded
> > little brother <smack!>.

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