Eclipse used to be impressive, but nowadays I get the impression IBM has 
no real interest in making it a decent Java IDE anymore. Compared to 
NetBeans it still wins hands down in anything related to code hygiene 
(NetBeans doesn't even bother to properly format the code it generates) 
and it is still ahead in the refactoring category, but for writing code 
I find NetBeans the much more pleasant experience. Apart from formatter 
improvements I couldn't tell you what improved between Eclipse 3.2's JDT 
and the one in 3.4. It certainly still has that really annoying bug that 
clipboard operations fail sporadically on Linux -- you Ctrl-X something 
and it is gone from your editor, but the clipboard still has whatever it 
had before. No one seems to care enough to fix that and the Bugzilla 
they use seems to be close to a one way communication system. If it is a 
communication system at all.

I think the lack of interest in the OSS versions of their products is 
sometimes quite obvious with IBM and I don't want to know what would 
happen to Eclipse if NetBeans would be discontinued.

  Peter



BoD wrote:
> Even Eclipse?
>
> If anybody buys "Java" (maybe not Sun entirely, but just the Java part, 
> if that makes any sense (probably not)), I wish it was Google.
>
> BoD
>
> phil swenson wrote:
>   
>> I am unimpressed with IBM's software.  WebSphere, AIX, DB2.
>>
>> The specialize in creating lousy, over-complicated software and make
>> money on professional services (the only people that can make their
>> stuff sort of work).
>>     
>>   
>>     
>
> >
>   



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