Peter Becker wrote: > Eclipse used to be impressive, but nowadays I get the impression IBM has > no real interest in making it a decent Java IDE anymore. Eclipse methodology:
Step 1: Capture market share Step 2: Let free products languish or simply keep it from providing a full solution and prod that market share into various commercial products built on top the free ones. This methodology makes business sense to corporations involved in Eclipse and I believe is a major reason Eclipse has more corporate partners than NetBeans. [Others being a lack of clarity on and good tooling for plug-in/module development in earlier releases and, of course, developer market share.] NetBeans tends to try to provide a full solution. It has arguably failed in cases (e.g. UML), but nothing is necessarily off limits. [Well, the conspiracy theorist within me says CPU profiling is, as there are only a handful of things that need fixing in the CPU profiler that prevent it from being useful on large real world systems, but none of the issues I've filed in this area ever get addressed.] > Compared to > NetBeans it still wins hands down in anything related to code hygiene > (NetBeans doesn't even bother to properly format the code it generates) > Well it formats it in a default manner instead of that which you requested in the formatting options, which is quite egregious and needs fixing! > and it is still ahead in the refactoring category, but for writing code > I find NetBeans the much more pleasant experience. Apart from formatter > improvements I couldn't tell you what improved between Eclipse 3.2's JDT > and the one in 3.4. It certainly still has that really annoying bug that > clipboard operations fail sporadically on Linux -- you Ctrl-X something > and it is gone from your editor, but the clipboard still has whatever it > had before. No one seems to care enough to fix that and the Bugzilla > they use seems to be close to a one way communication system. If it is a > communication system at all. > > I think the lack of interest in the OSS versions of their products is > sometimes quite obvious with IBM and I don't want to know what would > happen to Eclipse if NetBeans would be discontinued. > Eclipse is the one /major/ open source product IBM has actually had prolonged interest in. They contributed some XML libraries and such back in the day as well. Overall, however, they're adamantly based on a closed source model. That's fine, but (1) their bashing on Sun about supportinng open sourcing is disingenuous and (2) their products are sufficiently convoluted that I'm not sure how one is supposed to figure them out without a horde of IBM consultants or the source code. -- Jess Holle --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
