I'm not saying that people who use Macs don't care about Java. I'm 
saying that Apple doesn't need to do much for Java to keep them.

The post I originally replied to made the assumption that having a more 
up-to-date Java would be a good business strategy for Apple.

  Peter



Ryan Waterer wrote:
> Just because you own a Mac, doesn't mean that you don't care about 
> Java.  In all the companies that I've worked for, not a single one 
> ever was on the latest, greatest small update of Java.   In fact, the 
> company that I work for just started switching to Java 1.5.  All but 
> one of the 3rd party vendor software that the company uses is still on 
> 1.4!  One of the products do not have short or mid-term plans of 
> upgrading to 1.5 or 1.6.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Peter Becker <peter.becker.de 
> <http://peter.becker.de>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Joey Gibson wrote:
>     > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Peter Becker <peter.becker.de
>     <http://peter.becker.de>
>     > <http://peter.becker.de>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
>     <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >     How many people really care about having the latest Java?
>     How many of
>     >     those still use Macs? Whatever is left is the market you
>     miss out on,
>     >     and that just doesn't seem much to me.
>     >
>     >
>     > I have a Mac Pro and I really wish Apple would keep up with Sun's
>     > releases. The 6u13 ADC release is a good sign, but I'm not convinced
>     > yet that Apple is really (still) committed to Java. How many people
>     > were at JavaOne in 2000 (2001?) when Steve Jobs was McNealy's
>     surprise
>     > keynote guest and said that Apple was going to make the Mac the
>     > premiere platform for Java development? I was there, and they
>     followed
>     > through on that promise, for a while. It's been pretty sad the last
>     > two years or so. But again, the latest release is encouraging.
>     >
>     So you are in the second group: people who care about Java but
>     still use
>     Macs. Whatever it is that makes you stay with Apple, it is probably
>     better for them to invest in that than a more up-to-date Java.
>     After all
>     you don't care enough about Java to make you abandon their
>     products. In
>     the end it is all a question of what's the bottom line.
>
>      Peter
>
>
>
>
> >


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